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Jocephus

I will be going for a DOT physical in a few weeks and I have a few questions. I am unsure if this physical will also include a drug. I have been told that the DOT only drug tests those that hold a CDL. Is this correct? I do not have nor am I required to have a CDL.

This is taken right off of the medical form used for the physical. What does this mean?

(A test for controlled substances is not required as part of this biennial certification process. The FMCSA or the driver's employer should be
contacted directly for information on controlled substances and alcohol
testing under Part 382 of the FMCSRs.)

Does this mean that they will not be giving a drug test? If anyone has any experience with this and can help I would be greatly appreciative. Thanks

 

puntteam

I would imagine that it is employer dependent. Are you starting a new job?

Jocephus

I am a courier for fedex Express and this is my second physical. My first one was two years ago when I got the job. This is just my yearly physical. I know that our couriers who hold CDL's are subjected to and administered random drug tests. I have been searching the net like crazy looking for the difference between a DOT physical and a DOT physical and Drug test. I was hoping someone here could help me out. I am very worried about this. Thanks again.

puntteam

Could you ask a co-worker about the test? I always act super-paranoid about anything that is doctor related - Sometimes you can flush information out without a red-light going off. In truth, I am scared shitless when it comes to doctors - I'm nervous about even getting a regular physical done.

I'll ask a relative tomorrow about this. They work with Fedex couriers closely even though theyre not one (Fedex Employee). If I were you, I'd quit smoking now just to be on the safe side. Better safe than sorry and quitting isnt that big of a deal. The worst symptom I had was very slight insomnia about the first week.

Jocephus

Thanks a lot. Doctors scare the shit out of me too. They found blood in my urine on my first physical and it was a total nightmare. The Urologist I saw scoped my bladder with a fiber optic camera. Guess how they got the camera to my bladder? Yeah, it was a very bad experience. Tomorrow will be one week smoke free and I should have at least 3 to 3 1/2 weeks clean before the physical. I have been smoking about a joint every other day for the last 2 months, but it has been low grade shit to say the least. I am currently not in the best shape (5' 10", 190, 30% bf) but I think I can get my metabolism up. I have been drinking about a quart of green tea a day and I just ordered some more Greens+ which a superfood that is packed full of vitamins and has the equivalent of 5 servings of fruits/veges in one serving. I eat fruit and veges with every meal but I also eat a lot of sweets. The sweets are being cut out of my diet. I would like to pass this test without any urine additives or special drinks. I hope I can pass the test just from the green tea, greens+, and maybe dilution on test day. The only thing is I do not know the exact day of the physical so I might only have an hour or twos notice before the test. That will leave little time for proper dilution. Thanks again for everything.

 

puntteam

Heh, this place is easing my mind while I wait for results lol. I should be thanking everyone hear because all I have on my mind is "piss test" and there's no better place than here to talk about it

Yeah, definitely stay clean. Try and get your hands on a few home tests. You can buy 25 for 25$ from a medical distributor. If not, just head to a local CVS or something. Remember to use the first urine of the day as a guage to whether you are clean or dirty. As stated on this forum many times, if you pass with the first void of the day, you *should* pass under normal hyrdation later in the day.

I banked on that and am now waiting on results. Nothing special, no dilution, etc. I was 48 days clean at test time and a daily smoker before then. If I could do it differently, I would have worked out daily, took home tests weekly , sent in at least 1 result to home test GC confirmation, then ordered a test the week before from a collecting site. I know that all sounds extreme, but peace of mind is worth alot.

puntteam

Made a quick call for you -

She said she doesnt believe that they test when doing the routine physicals but they may decide to random you since you're already taking the physical. She wasnt 100% sure, so better be safe than sorry. GOod luck with your test and hope this helps.

Sec

If they decide to "random" test you, then it wouldn't be random. I collect urine for Fedex, but only the DOT regulated tests. I have never tested or collected for non-dot Fedex. So far, only the guys driving the big semi's (over 26,000 lbs gross) have been tested at my facility.

Random selection must be done using a scientific method such as a random numbering table or computerized random numbering program.

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puntteam

Sorry to stretch off topic, but I'm curious about this...

So an employer calling a random test must be done using a random method? This is interesting information. Thanks.

Jocephus

Thanks a lot guys. sec3 I have a DOT medical card, but I do not carry a CDL. I don't know if there is a difference between the physicals administered to CDL drivers vs just plain ol DOT guys . I am just wondering if a Non CDL DOT physical consists of a drug test or just your basic medical urinalysis? I downloaded the DOT Medical examination form from the DOT website and there was no boxes to check for drug test reslut, although there was some vague mention of drug abuse. I will ask a couple of my "cool" co workers who have been around a while what I should expect. I don't think I will smoke again after all this stress I am putting on myself. Thanks again guys and good luck puntteam.