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Old 04-20-2007, 07:03 PM   #1
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Pre-employment test coming up Monday. Been practicing like crazy, all prepared to sub and fI inally get info on the place I'm going to. It's an Occupational Health center of a local hospital.

According to their website, "direct observation may be used during urine collection. A person may watch you...".

Does this mean that someone will be directly eyeballing my phallus while I evacuate or more like the scenarios I have commonly read on this thread where the nurse is on the other side of the door?

It also claims need for 3 oz. instead of the typical 2 that I usually hear about.

Any comments, advice?

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Old 04-20-2007, 08:50 PM   #2
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Pre-employment test coming up Monday. All prepared to sub and finally get info on the place I'm going to. According to their website, "direct observation may be used during urine collection. A person may watch you...".

Does this mean like someone directly eyeballing my phallus or more like the scenarios I have commonly read on this thread where the nurse is on the other side of the door?

It also claims need for 3 oz. instead of the typical 2.

Any comments, advice?
They could ask for 4 oz, and usually they have someone neqar the door watching the sink
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Direct observation may be used. They just don't tell you that they need probable cause to do that. Cause would be:

Testing dirty for that employer before
Allowing the collector to see adulteration/substitution materials
Giving a specimen that is not up to temperature or over temperature
Giving a specimen that is off color (blue, green, etc.)
Giving a specimen that contains obvious adulterants (visible powder, granules, etc.)
Admitting to substituting/adulterating a specimen

...shit like that.

I tell people I need about an inch in the bottom of the cup. I also tell people I prefer about a half cup full.

Really, I need 30ml, 45ml or 60ml, depending on what the lab and employer require.

EDIT: Sorry Grillmeats. I tanked his other (nearly identicle) post and put your response to it here. I didn't realize that he had posted this question twice until I answered this one and lew scannon pointed out the other one.
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