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I recently took a job that has random testing. So my only real option, outside of abstaining, is substituting synthetic urine should I be called in for a test.

Everything I've read about substitution indicates the importance of practice. My question is how do experienced subbers practice.

I've got some QF4.0 on the way, and plan to keep it available in my car daily. Its possible, I may have enough time, or the ability to zap the synthetic urine in a microwave, but would also be able to rely on an hour to heat up the urine.

When practicing, is it just a matter of practicing the concealment and pouring of the sample in a cup while maintaining a realistic temperature, or are there other little tips and tricks that can only be learned and utilized with practice.

I'm interested in hearing what practice routine experienced subbers use to stay ready for a random screening.

 

FakeBoobsRule

My definition of practicing is finding the container of choice, filling it with a little more than 2 ounces of water at 90-100 degrees, securing it so that it can't be seen and it is getting enough body heat so that if you check the temp at 1 hour, 2 hours, and 3 hours it is still between 90-100. Do this days before the test and put your mind at ease. People just do not understand how much heat the body produces and how easy it is to keep the sample at the right temp. Your body is capable of keeping the temp in the range for as long as you have it secured.

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NoSale

That makes good sense.

My situation is being prepared for a random screening; meaning, I come to work and at some point receive an envelope from HR requesting me to travel to a nearby lab (probably 30 minute drive). I'm certain up to a few hours to get to the lab would be permissable and not suspect in this working environment. My position is not regulated by DOT, but other positions are and random testing of all employees is directed more at satisfying insurance requirements than controlled drug screening for DOT purposes.

Now random screenings could mean never, once every few years, or I have heard of one individual who was randomly selected 4 months straight.

So I've ordered a couple of QF4.0 and am planning to keep at all times in my car, or most likely, actually in my office. If the time ever comes, I will probably take the QF bottle and zap it in the microwave before leaving the office (I think this can be done discreetly). Then following the advice of others, crotch it, double boxer briefs, etc. to maintain the temps. I'm sure I will need to understand the likelihood of maintaining the temps for 1 hour, 1 1/2 hours, 2 hours, etc.

I've also considered finding some kind of microwaveable heat device (like what you can put on your neck and shoulders), or better yet, something that plugs into your car adapter that will heat (is there a coffee warmer for the car???). Whatever I find, I will need to practice in case its only once in a 15 year period I get selected for a random screening.

Is it best to transfer QF4.0 to a bottle shape/size of your choosing over keeping it in the same bottle? The bottle type looks to be a convenient size/shape for hiding to begin with and does have the digital thermometer already in place.

Darius927

Be careful with this! Often what you think of as discreete can be VERY obvious to others around. In an office, this would probably done in the lunch lounge where the fridge, coke machines, microwave, etc. are. And if you keep in at your desk/in office, MAKE SURE IT IS HIDDEN! Tape it under a drawer or something.

QF 4.0 has a heater pad with it. I've read that they are pretty reliable, but need about an hour to get to the proper temp to simulate body temp. As for extras, try to find handwarmers, you stick them in your pockets for cold environments. They are the same thing, depending on temp.

The thermometer is not digital, but does work. I found the QF 4.0 bottle a bit too flat and wide for my tastes. I'd prefer a 2-2.5 oz bottle, round. Depends on your weight, body. I'm thin so I felt that the QF 4.0 bottle wasn't as concealed as it could have been. If you swap bottles though, practice, as you won't have a thermometer available. With enough practice, keeping it between 90-100 degrees is cake.

Hope this helps.

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