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Old 07-11-2007, 02:35 AM   #11
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You're right, I am panicking. I've got a lot riding on this and I feel blessed to have gotten a second chance to "get it right" so to say. I just don't want to f**k it up, that's all. That's why I'm asking so many questions, because I'm nervous as hell. LOL

p.s. yes sec3 their website is a bit amateurish... I snickered when I first saw it. So Quest will test it then, eh? I'm guessing they don't even do the GC/MS first...
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Old 07-11-2007, 08:15 PM   #12
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I've been reading that they test for IgG component in the urine - I would not put it past that Florida company to do that
Human Glycoprotein Immunoglobulin G (IgG) is not being tested if you reside anywhere in the States. Labs are prohibited from performing any type of genetic analysis on a urine sample collected for an employment drug test, unless authorization is granted by the donor on a seperate and detailed consent form. The labs can only test for drug metabolites, pH, creatinine, specific gravity, certain oxidants, and excessive nitrites. As long as the QF synthetic was stored properly (no direct sunlight), and that the batch is not old, it will pass these validity checks.
There are lots of threads throughout the urine testing forum that discuss this issue as well.

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What is the failure probability of using either synthetic or this perfecturine stuff with the GCMS?
Synthetic samples contain no drug metabolites to test positive for on the GC/MS. With that being said, the only time a failure would possibly occur at this point is if some lowlife scam artist had replaced the synthetic with a human sample dirtied up with drug metabolites, prior to selling the batch to you. Exercise caution with whichever vendor you choose to purchase synthetics from, and cover your arse all the way - check the package for any signs of tampering (ie missing/damaged shrinkwrap, bottle contents unusually low, etc), and/or run both a home drug test and validity test on your synthetic batch before using. Drug testing kits and validity test kits (aka drug adulteration test kits) can be ordered online by doing a search on google.com.

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Old 07-11-2007, 09:07 PM   #13
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Heavens - then it's a wonder that these labs even bother to test if you can just go and get the synthetic stuff and pass with no problem. I'm really suprised that they haven't found a way yet to determine if the sample is synthetic or not - if you're using the tried and true Quick Fix that is which I have yet to find anyone failing with. Has anyone failed with it having it come up as nonhuman?

I've calculated it out - it will be 11 weeks since I was last even around any subtances when I test again. I'm really going to shoot for using my own sample if the home test comes up negative. Otherwise, I'm all about the Quick Fix which I hope I can find at the local head shop down the road.

Thanks to everyone for their knowledgable input and advice during this stressful period. I will let you know how the test came back - I plan on taking it a week from today.
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The test they are doing is: 6407N SAP 7-50 GC/MS

What does that mean? I've already searched the site to no avail.
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The test they are doing is: 6407N SAP 7-50 GC/MS

What does that mean?
The test you've described is a screen for 7 types of drugs with a 50 ng cutoff limit for THC.
The GC/MS would be performed if there was a positive for any of the 7 panels. So if you pass the initial SAP screen, no GC/MS would be performed and the testing process is finished.

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Old 07-11-2007, 11:19 PM   #16
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Thanks Lew... that's exactly what I wanted to know. I was thinking along those lines but if ya'll couldn't already tell, I need reassurances and my hand held along the way, haha.
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Default 5 panel test--do they or will they be able to tell gender?

I am needing to take a test tomorrow morning--was wondering if the lab company, etc. can detect if I were to use a pregnant woman's clean urine? Assuming temperature is accurate, etc.

Thanks for any advice/assistance.
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In your 5 panel test they will test for:

Marijuana
Cocaine
Opium
Amphetamines
PCP

Nowhere in there does it say to test for male/female or pregnancy.
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Thanks Sec: I definitely like hearing that from others...I didnt think they would test for sex or pregnancy but was concerned that possibly different hormones would just show up.

I also have a bottle of Quick Fix 4.0...if it were you, would you use the clean pregnant urine or Quick Fix...or is it virtually the same.

I get nervous about the synthetic, especially with the recent raid on Spectrum Labs and worry they may be on the fast track to identifying synthetic...or maybe my paranoia has reached an all time high.

regardless, thanks for responding
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