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Old 06-17-2002, 11:03 AM   #1
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Default joining the military and have plan to smoke bud *READ*

ok, so i'm joining the air force in one month and i want to keep smoking bud. so i've got a plan. first off, i'm gonna tell the recruiter that i've never smoked bud before so that they don't mark me as have ever smoked before. and i'm quitting smoking for a month, so i'll be clean when i get my drug test. now heres the catch... the air force is gonna test me randomly while i'm in service, so i was wondering if anyone knows how it works? do they come into where your working and demand you to piss right then or there? or do they tell you in advance? if they make you take it right away i would tell them i don't have to go to the bathroom, and ask them to reschedule. and what i would do is just keep a clean sample of urine at my home at all times. also i'd have one of those little bladder pouches with the hose that you can fake like your really peeing. i heard that they stand in the bathroom when you piss. is this true? if so, do they just stand behind you or something or do they sit and actually watch you? if they just stand behind you then i know i could get away with the little plastic bladder and hose thing. so anyways, anyone whos in the military, do you think this would work? does anyone else smoke bud whos in the air force or any other service? thanks for any advice because i really wanna keep smokin while i'm in the service.
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Old 06-17-2002, 12:39 PM   #2
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I think instead of figuring out how to get around it, maybe you should look at all the consequences. I mean, a dishonorable discharge isn't all that good on yer record. Also, I don't want someone who is protecting my well being getting ripped all the time. Dear god, I hope the red light doesn't go off on a Friday evening... Hehhee..
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Old 06-17-2002, 02:39 PM   #3
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Well, I speak from experiance.
I joined the Army in 98 and Since have become a reserve soldier. Anywho, Don't lie to the recruiter. They're job is to get you in, basic weeds out those that can't cut it. The recruiter is on your side. I've even heard of em helping teens clean out there system before the first test. After you're through trainging and in your everyday waorking envirement you will be tested randomly. Like once at most twice a year. The test will be unannounced. That's why it's called a random. Anywho, know the consiquences. I have a high ranking connect who'd tell me the date of the test and I'd call in sick that morning and return with a doctor's not excusing my abscence. I never once took a drug test in over 4 years in the service except for the first one when I joined. Good luck, but don't lose sight of your priorities.
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Old 06-17-2002, 03:35 PM   #4
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I have enough trouble trying to drive a car while stoned, i can't even imagine how it is to fly a plane while stoned..
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Old 06-18-2002, 12:45 AM   #5
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Not worth the risk. If you do it on your spare time, that's fine, but I don't want you flying bombers that cost millions of dollars of my tax money while you're high
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Old 06-18-2002, 12:48 AM   #6
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Default Scratch (****can) this plan

Te recruiter will help you get in, that is there job. Once your in, you will get caught if yo smoke weed. If you pass your initial test and then get caught later, you will be dishonorably discharged......on a job application that is just as bad as doing time...you will have one helluva time getting hired. And secondly, when will you have time to smoke? You will be getting your as busted all through bootcamp and gettin about 5 hours of sleep a night. You never knnow what there gonna make you do or when, so being high a 2 am is not really safe. This plan is stupid....Im not in the armed forces and dont plan on joining for any reason (Im in college now), but i know a few guys who were let go because of weed. Secondly, I dont want anyone who is high flying a multimillion dollar fighter plane. If your not disciplined enough to quit for a few months until you are off duty and made it, your never gonna be disciplined enough to make it there in the first place......think this one over man, the pros dont ouweigh the cons
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Old 06-18-2002, 03:30 AM   #7
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dont do it. The record if you get caught (dishonerible Discharge) will haunt you for the rest of your life.
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Not sure about AF, but Army is now supervising their tests and verifying orifice to cup urine transfer. Impossible to substitute that way. Find another profession, or get clean.

I wouldn't want to put my life on the line if I thought a stoner was maintaining my equipment. Don't get me wrong, but drugs and military are a bad combination. They don't follow OSHA rules for safety, and your life can easily be on the line during any training. Military training happens virtually every day, and teamwork is required for every mission I know of. If you were a pilot, would you want to fly in one of the worlds most advanced aircraft knowing that the guy working on it may have been under the influence?
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Old 06-18-2002, 10:35 PM   #9
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hahaha guys, i'm not going to be flying planes or anything, the air force has a lot of normal jobs like computer jobs and mechanical jobs... i'm probably gonna work in the motor pool. anyways, i'm still trying to decide whether i should join, or if i should just get a full time job and go to college. i think getting a job is a better idea. that way i can stay smokin'

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Old 06-18-2002, 11:51 PM   #10
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Default Go to college.....

If your not willing to give up smoking, go to college full time. Go into a bit of debt, it will be worth it when you get your degree. Not to mention, college is the best polace for smokers. You have access to just about any type of weed and no one cares what you do, it is almost like you smoke cigarettes or something.......College is the way to go
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