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Old 09-07-2007, 06:00 PM   #1
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Default B3 Niacin, Facts and Fiction?? My 3week Detox program....

First off this route of Detox is not meant for people who have a test tommorow or the day after, so if this is what your looking for please continue searching. This does NOT suggest using the dilution method for passing a UA. This is all based on information I have gathered and have practiced and currently practice to detox my body completely for some of the most rigorous Lab Ua/Blood tests around. So here goes:


1. If Niacin (Vitamin B3) is used in conjunction with working out, I have read this can speed up the rate at which your body expels the stored THC stored in your fat cells.

2. I have read heard that Niacin (Vitamin B3) is just a masking agent, and should only be taken the day before the test and the morning of the test.

3. I have also read that Niacin is complete Bull Shit and will have no effect with either of these.

My Detox Program and Information:

Products Needed:
Vitamin B3 250mg (100Quanity) NOT THE EXTENDED RELEASE OR TIME RELEASE
Sweat Suit (Aka. Sweat Pants and a Hoodie)

Begining with day one and to be continued until 2 days before the UA/Blood Test:

After Waking up take 1 250mg Niacin, and Proceed to run at least 1 mile in your sweat suit. Before running, Eat NO FOOD! This being because if you have no carbs from food for your body to convert to energy you will start burning fat into energy, thus releasing the THC stored in your fat cells and allowing you to sweat them out. This will be trapped in the sweat suit, so be sure to wash it after every work out so you dont reabsorb your toxins your trying to remove. You can start with a lower distance if your out of shape, because the second part of the day is harder.

Eat a good breakfast, Get plenty of Protein: I suggest like 2 Hard Boiled Eggs, Some shreaded wheat cereal and maybe a glass or two of Carnation Instant Breakfast. This should give you plenty of your daily suppliments you'll need.

During the day, around noon take 1 more 250mg Niacin. This will keep the good blood flow and help keep your metabolism running strong. I would also suggest eating 4-5 small meals consisting of vegtables and fruits, and not to eat 3 big meals. This is also a good tip but you can alter any of these SUGGESTIONS as you please.



Early afternoon/Late evening I would reccomend using the daily workout routine at Welcome to CrossFit: Forging Elite Fitness this is a combination of Cardio and some weight lifting. Again take 1 250mg Niacin before this routine. And wear your CLEAN sweat suit so you do not reabsord the toxins you release in your sweat.

Repeat this routine daily until two to three days before your UA/Blood test. The day after you stop your work out routine, I would reccomend stopping the Niacin, because some UA tests actually test for this drug. I would proceed to drink about 70oz of water for the next two days, this can be replaced with gatorade or cranberry juice just to remove the Niacin, which is water soluable unlike the Toxins in your fat cells. Be sure to urinate as much as possible. And then quit drinking this water the night before your test. The morning of the test, I would drink 2 20oz Gatorades and Piss/Give blood with confidence. This method has never let me down. I am an everyday allday smoker, and believe this to be MY only way to completely clean out my system without using dilution/substitution.

Here is just 1 fact I know about Niacin, you can do some more research:


Why do we need niacin? Niacin is one of the B vitamins. Sometimes it is called vitamin B3. We need niacin for our bodies to use the energy in carbohydrates, fats, and proteins. Niacin also is needed for DNA repair and for the normal use of calcium in the body.
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Old 09-07-2007, 06:02 PM   #2
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Dont get scared of the Niacin Flush when your skin sometimes turns red and you itch. with 250mg this effect is not that bad and after 3 -4 days this effect will most likely wear off. The time to get used to the drug thus stopping these side effects is different for everyone but the Flush is in fact a POSITIVE thing, it lets you know the drugs are working......Good Luck!!!
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That is complete bullshit...
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Haha, Okay...That's why i've passed 3 UA tests and 1 Blood test off doing this exact same thing. 2 UA Tests being at the MEPS for the Military. Where you can't dilute and you cant have Creatine and Niacin and shit in your system above normal levels or you will fail as well. But you continue to believe what you want and waste your money on stupid shit like Detox Drink and give your kidneys a good workout with all your water. Noob.....Get a life Jerry!

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Old 09-07-2007, 07:33 PM   #5
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The niacin "flush"

It's important to note that this niacin flush is not harmful or dangerous. Some people worry about it, but it is actually a sign of improved blood flow.
When you get the niacin "flush", it's an indication that the niacin is causing small blood vessels in your body to be expanded in size. Many of your small blood vessels, called "capilaries" are so small that blood cells can only go through them in single file. Sometimes, in fact, that small capilary passageway is clogged and blood doesn't get through at all.

While the large organs of the body all have blood supplied from large arteries, a great deal of your body, particularly the parts near the skin, get their ONLY supply of blood (therefore also of oxygen and nutrients) from these small capillaries.
The niacin causes these small capilaries to expand - so they might be able to carry 2 or 3 blood cells at the same time. This is a tremendous increase in blood flow.
You experience this as a "flushing" of the skin, simply because there is more blood close to the surface of the body. As the blood flows in these areas, the cells of the small capilaries will also be getting rid of their waste products, and often they produce 'histamine' as part of this process. That histamine is another natural substance produced by every cell in the body when a cell is under attack, or is eliminating toxins. Histamine causes an 'itchy' feeling.

Niacin and detoxification of fatty tissues

There are many 'detoxification programs' on the internet, but few of them acknowledge the significant fact that many toxins are stored in FATTY TISSUES. Until that fact is acknowledged, one can not develop a procedure for removing toxins from THAT location.

Niacin has the well-known effect of causing "vasodilation", often called the niacin flush, which is an opening of the small blood vessels, the capillaries, so that more blood flows through them. These are the blood vessels which are of most value in reaching fatty tissues. In this way the toxins which are stored in these fatty tissues can be removed, into the bloodstream, and processed out of the body. However, niacin is also made in the form of niacinamide - a form of vitamin B3 which, deliberately, is manufactured so that it will NOT cause dilation of the blood vessels - the flush so well known when using plain niacin. A detoxification program which features the use of niacinamide and also claims to improve blood circulation would be based on false science.
Some detoxification programs don't even recognize that the toxins they claim to be removing are stored in fatty tissues. The idea of removing these toxins by some procedure which does not include niacin is not practical.
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Old 09-07-2007, 07:34 PM   #6
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References

1. Capuzzi DM, Guyton JR, Morgan JM, Goldberg AC, Kreisberg RA, Brusco OA, Brody J. Efficacy and safety of an extended-release niacin (Niaspan): a long-term study. Am J Cardiol. 1998 Dec 17;82(12A):74U-81U.
2. Cunningham JJ. Micronutrients as nutriceutical interventions in diabetes mellitus. J Am Coll Nutr. 1998 Feb;17(1):7-10.
3. Gardner SF, Marx MA, White LM, Granberry MC, Skelton DR, Fonseca VA. Combination of low-dose niacin and pravastatin improves the lipid profile in diabetic patients without compromising glycemic control. Ann Pharmacother. 1997 Jun;31(6):677-82.
4. Goldberg AC. Clinical trial experience with extended-release niacin (Niaspan): dose-escalation study. Am J Cardiol. 1998 Dec 17;82(12A):35U-38U.
5. Greenbaum CJ, Kahn SE, Palmer JP. Nicotinamide's effects on glucose metabolism in subjects at risk for IDDM. Diabetes. 1996 Nov;45(11):1631-4.
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Niacin does absolutely nothing that will help you pass a drug test.

As for your anecdotal evidence, the fact that you used niacin before the test and passed in no way implies that you passed because of the niacin. That's the same kind of fallacious logic the prohibitionists use to "prove" that mj is a "gateway drug".

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Where you can't dilute and you cant have Creatine and Niacin and shit in your system above normal levels or you will fail as well.
You can dilute for any UA. You have to have your creatinine with normal ranges, which you can do by supplementing or eating a lot of red meat. Drug tests do not check for niacin.

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But you continue to believe what you want and waste your money on stupid shit like Detox Drink and give your kidneys a good workout with all your water.
Expensive detox products, when they work at all, work by dilution. The dilution method described in this forum is a tried and true methodology. It costs next to nothing. Drinking the right amount of water directly before the test is part of that method.
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1. Capuzzi DM, Guyton JR, Morgan JM, Goldberg AC, Kreisberg RA, Brusco OA, Brody J. Efficacy and safety of an extended-release niacin (Niaspan): a long-term study. Am J Cardiol. 1998 Dec 17;82(12A):74U-81U.
2. Cunningham JJ. Micronutrients as nutriceutical interventions in diabetes mellitus. J Am Coll Nutr. 1998 Feb;17(1):7-10.
3. Gardner SF, Marx MA, White LM, Granberry MC, Skelton DR, Fonseca VA. Combination of low-dose niacin and pravastatin improves the lipid profile in diabetic patients without compromising glycemic control. Ann Pharmacother. 1997 Jun;31(6):677-82.
4. Goldberg AC. Clinical trial experience with extended-release niacin (Niaspan): dose-escalation study. Am J Cardiol. 1998 Dec 17;82(12A):35U-38U.
5. Greenbaum CJ, Kahn SE, Palmer JP. Nicotinamide's effects on glucose metabolism in subjects at risk for IDDM. Diabetes. 1996 Nov;45(11):1631-4.
I see your references, you got anything written in this century? At least less than 9 years old...
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Haha, Okay...That's why i've passed 3 UA tests and 1 Blood test off doing this exact same thing. 2 UA Tests being at the MEPS for the Military. Where you can't dilute and you cant have Creatine and Niacin and shit in your system above normal levels or you will fail as well. But you continue to believe what you want and waste your money on stupid shit like Detox Drink and give your kidneys a good workout with all your water. Noob.....Get a life Jerry!
Look, you obviously don't know shit about me(or drug testing, blood tests and UAs have nothing to do with each other).

I am not new to drug testing or this site. I have spent many hours here coaching people to pass drug screens. I don't preach bullshit or detox drinks.

I do know that you are perpetuating an urban legend, and you are going to make someone fail if they follow your instructions.

Oh, I happen to have a great life, thank you.
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Look, you obviously don't know shit about me(or drug testing, blood tests and UAs have nothing to do with each other).

I am not new to drug testing or this site. I have spent many hours here coaching people to pass drug screens. I don't preach bullshit or detox drinks.

I do know that you are perpetuating an urban legend, and you are going to make someone fail if they follow your instructions.

Oh, I happen to have a great life, thank you.

So folk, how do I pass this piss test then? I'm try'na go fill out this app for this job, and the dirty urine is all that stands in my way.

I'm really Not down with turnin' red anyway, so fuck niacin methods. What is a sure fire way (so long as properly executed) I can get rid of this THC in my system?

Oh yea, asap! What is the fastest time I can clean my system of the good THC?

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