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Old 10-12-2007, 05:32 AM   #11
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Thank you so much for the response. BTW I'm in MICHIGAN, so if anyone can help w/ that, I'd MUCH appreciate it.

Furthermore, I have already gotten a bottle of ROLAIDS (not Tums), Gatorade, Aspirin, B-100 slow release B vitamins (I will crush them up and take to counteract the slow release....I've tried this a couple days ago, and my urine turned a nice yellow). I drink about a gallon of water normally, daily, so I my urine is usually clear, but the B-Vit-100 did turn it yellow.

I also mentioned in previous post that I have already ordered a bunch of THC test strips tests from an online store (not allowed to post the URL) for about $1.95 a piece, as well as a bunch of adulteration test strips for about $1.25 a piece. I should be receiving them this weekend, and I'll immediately do a first void test, and post my results here.

ALSO, I don't think I can sub because this will be for a PROBATION, and I think that you're observed. But my main concern is being tested on my court date (it isn't a drug charge at all, but it's a felony charge nonetheless--would rather not go into it).

AND I'm 100% clean now (for about 2 weeks at the time of this post), as far as all bad habits.....smoking, etc. I plan on never smoking again, just because I don't want to take anymore chances in my life. BTW, for my workouts, I'm doing abs everyday, as well as light lifting, and 3 miles cardio on eliptical (30 mins), followed by 3 miles cardio on a bike (15 mins).

Thanks for all the help so far, and anything further would be appreciated more than you can believe!
Once you get your test strips, use 2 of them asap. First one use with your first void of the day, the second during the midday. Drink a normal amount of water and don't stress over the results. If you are clean during the first, you are great...if dirty, the second will confirm if you're following the dilution method correctly.

Remember that you'll be shedding THC heaviest A) After liquid has had a chance to sit in your body at rest overnight and B) After your workout, when your body is in its best fat burning stage.

If you get two Negative results during these phases you should pass a court test. I can't recall if Michigan Court system (or any court system for that matter) uses a DOT or military standard (20ml or lower) in their testing. The best i can say is, if you pass the home tests at 50, and continue to work out up to 3 days before the test, the switch into fat saving mode (lots of fatty foods, no workouts) AND continue the dilution process, there is no reason you wont skate under the wire of a court test.

The day of the test, before you go in, take another home test, and use the adulteration test strips to check that you are correctly balanced for the entire time up to the date. Do that and you will be just fine. Again, don't forget to report back here the entire episode so someone else in the MI can take some wisdom in what they may have to go through!
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Old 10-12-2007, 05:36 AM   #12
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Oh, btw......when I was smoking over the past year or so, it was mostly schwag, up until say 5 months ago, then mids till 2 weeks ago.
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Old 10-13-2007, 08:31 PM   #13
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Ok, so I took a test w/ my first void of the day. I also ran a specimen validity test to get my baseline. I'm currently exactly 14 days clean, and have been doing cardio daily (as per my previous posts) for the past 4 days.

I failed the test (no line to a VERY faint line if you look CLOSELY). The specimen validity test showed that everything was in normal range and creatinine was high (over 100), so I figure that's good.

I'm going to try dilution today, and take another test later on tonight, and I'll post the results of that here as well. I'm gonna try by starting at the 8 hour mark, and take 4 aspirin every 3 hours until the 2 hr mark (12 total). Asides from that, I'm gonna follow N2's dilution sticky (w/ salted gatorade --> 2 tbl for 2 quarts). If anyone has any other suggestions ESPECIALLY about a schedule for the Rolaids, I'd really appreciate it (right now I figure I'll take 4 rolaids every hour for 4 hours up to the time I test myself).

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Old 10-14-2007, 03:56 AM   #14
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Thumbs down Tried Diluting.....Disaster

Well.......anyways, I tried diluting w/ Salt-Gatorade mixture (2 tablespoons of salt in 2 quarts of Gatorade), and it didn't make me piss at all....it mostly made me shit, and very liquid-y at that. And now I'm in pain from liquishitting so much. Anyways, I tested myself in the morning w/ first void, and again about 20 mins ago after the failed dilution method.

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1:53 PM (first void)
THC Test --> Positive (Barely faint to no line)
Creatinine: 100
Nitrite: Neg (L)
Gultaraldehyde: Neg.
pH: 4-7
S.G.: 1.015
Oxidant/PCC: Neg (L)

Then I tried the following dilution method:

2:30 PM --> 4 Aspirin
5:30 PM --> 4 Aspirin
7:00 PM --> 4 Rolaids, 16 oz. Gatorade-Salt liquid
7:15 PM --> 1 B-100 Vitamin Complex (time release-NOT CRUSHED), 8 oz Gatorade-Salt liquid
7:30 PM --> 8 oz Gatorade-Salt liquid
7:45 PM --> 8 oz Gatorade-Salt liquid
8:00 PM --> 4 Rolaids, 8 oz Gatorade-Salt liquid
8:15 PM --> At this point, I started shitting liquid like crazy. Went 2 times, but pissed minimally
8:30 PM --> 4 Aspirin, 8 oz Gatorade-Salt liquid
8:35 Pm --> Had another liqui-shit session (minimal piss).
8:45 PM --> Got so fucking thirsty, and I felt kinda sick, so I broke down and drank 20-24 oz of regular water
9:00 PM --> 4 Rolaids, 4 oz Gatorade-Salt liquid
9:05 PM --> Had ANOTEHR liqui-shit session (minimal piss again), but almost clear liquid shit (quite a bit).
9:30 PM --> 1/2 caffeine pill
10:00 PM --> 1 B-100 Vitamin Complex (time release-CRUSHED), 4 Rolaids, 4 oz Gatorade-Salt liquid, 16 oz Gatorade-Creatine-Fiber mix
11:00 PM --> TEST

Same EXACT results as this morning. Except the urine was yellow, and smelled like multivitamins.

And again, I'm pretty sure it's because all that liquid never made it to my kidneys/urine, but stayed in the intestine, and hence the painful diarrhea . Anyways, I would like any advice on how to fix this dilution method to make it work. I'm guessing the first thing would be to cut all the salt out, and just try it w/ Gatorade? Also, should I try out S2's 2 hour, 1 gallon dilution plan, but w/o the salt? Ugh.....I hope to god I can get this to work sooner than later.

Any and all advice, as usual, would be much appreciated.

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I think you can cut out the aspirin as well as the salt.
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Old 10-14-2007, 11:58 PM   #16
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Thx.........I will try that tonight w/ a dilution/test.

Still open to any and all advice!

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Cool Tried ONLY water dilution......

Ok guys, here's an update.

I was pissed as hell from the previously failed dilution, so I tried diluting w/ JUST water to see if I could at least get a line. I started diluting about 4 hours after my 3 + 4 mile workout, and on the same lowfat diet. Well, I basically drank GALLON and a HALF of water over 2.5 hours. I tried to space it out as evenly as possible. I took 4 aspirin (for pain, mostly....strained muscle), and a 4 Rolaids over the same course of time. At about 1.5 hours out, I took a crushed B-100 multivitamin, and had half a turkey-cheese-onion sandwich. Then at about 30 mins out, I took a half of one B-100 multivitamin, not crushed. I pissed a few times, until my piss turned some manner of yellow (slight, but yellow still), and ran the test. Welllllll, I finally got a LINE. Given, it was about half as dark as the control line, but it's a line nonetheless. So at least I know I can dilute the levels down in my urine.

Now for the bad news (I'm sure you all know what it is). I ran a specimen validity test, and sure enough, ALL the fields were normal/legit, EXCEPT creatinine & specific gravity. Creatinine color was CLOSE to 20, but could have been between 10 and 20. Specific gravity was low, at a color between 1.000 and 1.003.

So basically, I think it failed the validity test. I figure I'll try again tomorrow with only a gallon of gatorade over 2 hours and several Rolaids, to see if that can raise my spec. gravity. As for the creatinine, I'll up my daily dose back to loading dose, and hopefully that corrects that problem.

Also, I figure I'll keep up the same cardio and diet, and then go sloth lazy and eat fatty ass foods starting 3 days before my actual test. Hopefully the combination of all this will allow me to pass a probation test! I woulda been happier if I at least had a darker line on the test, or come closer to passing my specimen validity test (asides from the color).

Anyways, please share any thoughts, concerns, or advice on how to improve this damn dilution thing. I always appreciate the input!

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How did the next dilution with Gatorade and the extra rolaids go? Did it increase your specific gravity? Hopefully, upping your creatine will increase your creatinine level as well. Make sure to keep us posted, inquiring minds want to know.

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