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S2

Dilution doesnt clean anything out of your system. Think about the word: Dilution.

Think of oh, lets say Kool-aide. lets say you want to test a 5 gallon pitcher to see if there is any kool-aide in it. you start with an inch of kool aide in the bottom of the pitcher. taste that and sure enough, theres gonna be kool aide in it. Now add 5 gallons of water- taste that and it will taste like water and be clear as water-- but guess what, that same amount of kool aide is in that jug.

I have no idea what total time accross means???

Aspirin will help you pass any immunoassay type test-- it does not help with GC/MS. dilution will help pass any kind of test BUT, thing is the labs will test for substances that every body has in their system-- dilution dilutes everything in your urine--not just thc metabloites-- so by looking at creatinine level and specific gravity, the lab can see that you drank so much water that your normal chemistry is dilute and therefore you could have thc metabolites in you that the lab didnt detect-- they flag those results as dilute and some times you can retest or sometimes too bad charlie-- your out!

 

VapeDaKine

Thanks for all the info S2, this thread really helped me hopefully be ready for a pre-emp test coming up. I do have a couple questions:

I believe I saw that creatine should be converted to creatinine in the body. I picked up GNC's Creatine Monohydrate, they had another kind but they both said they will be converted to creatine phosphate in the body. Is there another kind I sould be looking for?

I also ordered some home test kits and was wondering if just taking aspirin without dilution, on this test and maybe in the lab, might give me the false negative result too? Would it show up to the lab as negative with comments or something? I guess I am worried they might test for apsirin like some places test for bleach.

I am going to at least be ready for dilution which hopefully should work if I do it right. Thanks again

shgrdii

S2....do you think your dilution method would work if I didn't take the creatine pill and just took everything else you listed?? Does the creatine pill really make a big impact on the results??

Questions1000

I have not smoked for 15 days and smoked 3-4 times/week for about 2 months before that. I will be tested in 3 days and am worried about the test. I took an at home test 2 days ago and looked like it came up negative (though the lines were very faint). How accurate are the at home tests? I have been taking Sonne's #7 for a few days and have also been fairly active with exercise. If I take another at home test first thing in the morning and pass and I also drink a lot of fluids take a B2 vitamin and 4 aspirin before the test, should I be ok? Any ideas would be great as I am also considering substitution with a synthetic.

S2

any question like "Will I pass if....." is answered by: I don't know-- check with a home test

Reminder: techniques in the aspirin/dilution method to increase creatinine levels by ingesting creatine supplement and keeping specific gravity up in the face of dilution by consumption of salts and minerals is only educated guess, I have never seen any research that indictes if this works and by how much. I based my aspirin and dilution formula on the best guess I could come up with- given my limited understanding of how concentrations of chemcals in the body are translated into concentrations in urine-- The effect aspirin has on immunoassay type tests is scientifically validated- the salt,gatorade, creatine stuff is logical but unproven-- until someone gets a hold of some specific gravity and creatinine tests and tries various levels of consumption in conjunction with dilution, they will remain educated guesses and the testee is strongly encouraged to validate their program with home tests.

Question 1000, this thread is intended to specifically discuss the aspirin and dilution program-- you would do much better starting a thread with your question or asking a moderator to move it to its own thread.

Aspirin alone without dilution can trigger false negative on both home and lab tests-- depends on how much you have in your system-- to my knowledge it is not tested for or flagged as an adulterant. I am not aware of any adulterant test for what you consume--only for what you would add to the sample after its in the cup--like bleach or nitrates

 

S2

OK, I found some reasonably priced test strips for specific gravity and creatinine-- two labs I spoke with said this is what they use for adulterant check (told them I was putting together a testing program for an alternative high school)

I ordered a bottle of 25 strips and I'll do some dilution experiments to see how various amounts of creatine and salts/minerals affect SG and creatinine and post my findings.

It won't exactly be a double blind research project but I will put some thought into it and design as robust a study as I can.

it might take a few weeks, I dont want to be drinking a gallon fo gatorade every day

Anyone else wants to tr messing around with this can buy the strips Here

VapeDaKine

I bought a 10 pack of drug test kits off ebay this week. Like $30 with shipping and they for test 5 drugs. Im drinking gatorade as we speak since I got a call back for a second interview on Monday but I smoked yesterday so its time to quit again haha I figured since they hadnt called me yet, they had found someone else. Oh well...

I've also got a fish tank and am able to check the salinity of my piss. I'll see how the gatorade comes out, it starts off around 1.025. I saw the salinity and creatine accepted levels but will have to search for them again. Will post what I find...

VapeDaKine

Well dilution works but I def need to get a lot more salt down I was close to 1.000 right off the bat. I only took a lil salt later but forgot to check it. I did smoke this week and up to the testing...

Bodhi36

I'm still confused about the TUMS- why is that part of the dilution method again? Yall are saints for doing these experiments so thast others may benefit...

lubed

Hi to all
Just wanted to ask what type of mull you guys puff ? is it cr%#py leaf or hydroponic heads ? as The latter is the only type thats available here, and is very very potent
I'm having trouble finding any home test kits here in Sydney , Aust.
Im over 42 , 5 foot 11 inch and about 165 pounds (sorry for the weight non abbrieviations but we have metric here ,took a while to convert too.. we don't call a Quarter pounder with cheese a royal though, go figure, LOL) Now does the potency of the pot relate to amount of dilution/ aspirin to do prior to test? Or is this method universal I've done about an Oz. in the last twelve mths smoking every day and have been for around thirty years ..
P.S. the first time I ever heard of a pre. emp test was 2 weeks ago during my initial interveiw , stopped my adventures then and must get the test done
(EMIT) at the latest by 15 march 05 . Wish me LUCK... will let you guys know how I went .... thanks and toodles