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Old 12-20-2007, 03:47 PM   #1
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Lightbulb Drug Test hibbidyjibidy - rationalizing the final moments

OK, this is not the most butterNbread/meatNpotatoes question about drug testing, but it has suddenly come to my mind for my specific situation.

My man (I am the mongol, he is the viking) is trying to be a employer/installer for dish network, anyway for some very fortunate reason they have him train for almost a month before finally requiring the drug test. However, most unfortunately so he has been studying for the test since 11/17, but I guess his metabolism was slower than thought or he was really a heavy/frequent smoker than he thought, as he still can't pass it - we used 2 walmart $20 hopefully-ok-quality 4panel home drug tests.

He has about a week left, the local boss really likes him but dish corporate really needs the clean pee soon. Anyway here is the real question: if on the morning(or slightly right b4 testing time) of the final day he really is finally required to take the drug test, we do the home drug test and he fails it even after heavy dilution with gallons of water drinking etc, I think he should not go take the formal drug test. The place (www.safeworksillinois.com) that does it is pretty "ghetto" I have taken a drug test there b4 and I assume that they use something of the same "quality" or a little bit better than the walmart home drug test. I just think if he can't pass it say a hour or so at home then he probably won't pass that, that sounds pretty right right?
And the general rationale being let's just not "formalize" the drug test failure, which would probably be recorded unnecessarily by dish network corporation (there would then be no hope of applying again there for a job in the future, I mean they really don't even have much of his personal information yet right now and of course not really know he is probably not able to pass the test). And isn't it best to also not do the formal drug test as I think it is a state drug testing agency - we don't need/want the state recording it if possible either correct especially if it is most likely he is going to fail it. One more thing, he should probably just tell dish he had some unforseen situation and cannot pursue the job further for now, if he has to give any reason at all.

I mean what would you do? Just trying to make the whole situation to turn out as not horrible as possible. Sorry I write convulutely sometimes - wordy.

And yes he has been exercising vigorously and taking intense fibers/vitamins.

What do you guys think, and please at least give a brief rationale if you will thanx so much in advance!

Happy Holidays,
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Old 12-20-2007, 09:18 PM   #2
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Substitute.

Dish Network doesn't use the same type of testing cup as Walmart. They actually collect the urine and send it to a laboratory to be tested. The collection site can't frisk your man, so read up on the substitution.
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Old 12-20-2007, 11:21 PM   #4
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I read the first 10 pages or so of this several hundred page post but just got too tired to go on. Now I saw the possibility mentioned of peeing your dirty pee in the test cup to heat up to about body temperature and then immediately pouring in the clean pee - it sounds so easy of course without handwarmers etc but is it too good to be true. Has anyone tried this and see if it works? Also I was disappointed to see that most digital thermometers beep so I guess it is best to avoid taking it into the testing center bathroom - now all you guys who have drug tested and can remember do all or most test cups actually have a temperature strip on it (versus test center employee using separate thermometer to test temperature)?

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Your friend is probably still showing up dirty because of the exercising. When you exercise it breaks down the body fat where the THC metabolites are stored. It will then work it's way to the bladder. That could be a good thing if you have plenty of notice before testing.

OTHERWISE...if you only have a couple of days notice....it's defeating the purpose. That is the time you want to avoid exercise, eat high fiber and high fats. That way the body is not releasing stored body fat. Stay hydrated but don't waste time drowning in water until day of test. Then try the DILUTION STICKY to the letter. Let us know how it goes.
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Old 12-21-2007, 01:17 AM   #6
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Also, if you still can, maybe edit out the company name in your post. It's usually unnecessary to post that info on this site IMO. I would post just the company name of the testing site, not where you're gonna work. It's highly unlikely they'd have someone scope out this site, but it might turn out in a Google search.

I'm paranoid like that sometimes...
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Buy the urinator, I used it several times it always works, had it for two years. U just gotta know someone that has clean pee u can use.
It's the best way. Expensive, but worth it.
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