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ohionative

So I've got a test I'm preparing for next week at Labcorp. I haven't seen the paperwork but the a general list of contractor requirements lists a "supervised drug test". I know for full time employees a physical is also required, but that doesn't apply to me.

So at the risk of sounding naive, does supervised always mean observed? Or does it mean you can't just walk in their with a walgreens piss test and pronounce yourself clean?

Just weighing my options. And again, I'll know more when I see the test paperwork on Friday.

Additionally, how many people have had any luck pleading shy bladder symptom (which in my case is probably true) and getting a few seconds with which to sub. I've done that before, so if I get the chance it should be easy breezy.

Thanks,

Bill

ETA: From what I read from Sec's comments, supervised and observed are not the same thing. This is not a DOT test of anything that extreme. Am I okay to relax? I've already got my cleartest order ready to roll. Assuming I don't fuck it up, I hope I'm golden. Frankly, after the turmoil this has put me through I may give it up altogether, since so much is riding on this sort of thing. I tend to avoid jobs requiring tests, but this was sprung on me out of nowhere.

 

Darque Pervert

That means there's someone in the room with you, not necessarily watching for a stream leaving your urethra, though.

No, it means the test is administered by a lab employee (assumed to be a professional).

That doesn't work. Urination is a natural body function. Even under the most stressful ciircumstances, you will eventually pee.


Sure, you should relax. It helps with all things.
And if you're passing home tests, then you should be OK to pass a lab test, as well.

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ohionative

So this is like every other test I've taken, where you sign in, go into the bathroom, and do your thing?

Sec

"Supervised" is not a term associated normally with drug testing

"Observed" means someone will actually watch the urine flow from the body into the collection cup.

"Monitored" means that the restroom could not be secured. Either there are multiple stalls and/or sinks or that there are two or more entrances/exits to the restroom and the collector cannot stand outside the restroom, have you pee in the cup, then swear that you could not have tampered with the specimen. The Monitor must be in the room, just not actually inside the same stall with you.

I would imagine that "Supervised" means that it is a formal drug test using a CCF and proper procedure as opposed to simply peeing in a cup and having the HR dept. dip a test card into the specimen.

That is my best educated guess. Again, the term "Supervised" is not normally used in the drug testing world.

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ohionative

The stated background requirements include:

\"A clean supervised five-panel drug screen to detect cocaine, amphetamines, opiates,
phencyclidine and marijuana (“Drug Screen”), by a reputable medical office or drug testing service.\"

So if there\'s a stringent observation requirement, which I\'m starting to doubt more and more, would it show up on the lab paperwork, which I\'ll get via DHL tomorrow?

Many thanks. I\'m still preparing myself for both methods (sub/dilute) but a little peace of mind would make for an easier weekend.

 

Jerry G

"Observed" is the operative word when they are actually going to watch you piss.

I think this is a standard pre employment UA...

FakeBoobsRule

This is another one of those that gets repeated all the times, observed, monitored, etc etc etc. Does it get annoying when people interchange these and add the "supervised" term in there? Thanks for stopping in and clearing up the confusion as usual Sec!

From everything I have learned pre-employment tests are not observed unless you give them cause Ohionative. This is determined by employment laws and not by the collection center or employer. Cause might be refusing to empty pockets if asked or removing outerwear or a test sample not in the proper temp range or a whizzinator coming undone, falling down the leg of your pants, and hitting the floor! I believe Sec has quoted her maunal here before on what happens if you don't provide a sample at the right temp and basically you have to give a second sample under observation within 3 hours and you can't leave the collection site. Then both samples are sent in for testing. I doubt that is written onto the paperwork ever but the collectors should know what to do. They can't touch you either. They can make you pat yourself down but they can't touch you. So you would probably never see it written on the lab paperwork because of all of the above.

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ohionative

I\'m slowly slowly climbing off the ledge. Thanks to everyone for their encouragement. Having subbed before I feel pretty confident.

ohionative

Thanks again for the clarification. It was indeed the standard pre-employment screen. I probably could have walked in with it in my shirt pocket. Temperature was verified and I'm golden (har har).


Thanks again,

Bill