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Old 03-10-2008, 03:35 PM   #1
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I've tested with Quest DIagnostics b4.... all they ask for is a photo id and soc. sec. card


I was thinking... if I got a fake ID.... with my subs face but my name... n gave them my soc. sec. card to present


i would be good right?
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Old 03-10-2008, 04:21 PM   #2
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I've tested with Quest DIagnostics b4.... all they ask for is a photo id and soc. sec. card. I was thinking... if I got a fake ID.... with my subs face but my name... n gave them my soc. sec. card to present i would be good right?
Well that sounds like it's a lot more trouble than just subbing plus your going to make your friend go through the trouble of actually taking the test for you? I how you buy them something nice. I wonder what legal implications this has if the two of you get caught.
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Old 03-10-2008, 04:35 PM   #3
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how likely is it that we'll get caught considering that all the forms of id of me... will be given to them by me(sub)
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The way you worded your post it sounds like you want to get a fake id with his picture, your name on it and your friend uses that to take the test. From your last post it sounds like this is NOT what you are trying to do so please explain it because I don't get it.
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tbh this sounds like a TERRIBLE idea, unless you have a twin, which from the sounds of it -- you don't. also, this is what's known as fraud, it's a serious crime which will get you into a LOT more trouble than just failing a piss test. i really hope this isn't for probation... you'll be completely SOL if you're caught in that case.
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Old 03-10-2008, 06:43 PM   #6
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The way you worded your post it sounds like you want to get a fake id with his picture, your name on it and your friend uses that to take the test. .

that's what I mean.
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The form of ID that I ask for is an unexpired government issue (Drivers license, state issued ID card, Military ID card, Tribal ID card, etc.) photo identification card.

Feedyourhead is also correct, that now are you not only breaking the law by adulterating your drug test, you are committing fraud by your friend forging your name on the forms.
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I'm not talking a counterfit ID... I mean a legitimate State ID... just with my name and my sub's face...


But, my friend who recently took a test there informed me that you guys copy the photo ID... I'm assuming you do that for verification purposes so I guess that won't work.
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I'm not talking a counterfit ID... I mean a legitimate State ID... just with my name and my sub's face...


But, my friend who recently took a test there informed me that you guys copy the photo ID... I'm assuming you do that for verification purposes so I guess that won't work.
IF it has your name and your friends face, then it isn't a ligitimate State ID, now is it?

A legitimate ID has not been tampered with. It is just as it is issued from the issuing party (the State of whatever). If it has been messed with, then it is fraudulent or counterfeit.

No, at our facility, we do not photocopy unless the employer requests us to do so.
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I'm not talking a counterfit ID... I mean a legitimate State ID... just with my name and my sub's face...


But, my friend who recently took a test there informed me that you guys copy the photo ID... I'm assuming you do that for verification purposes so I guess that won't work.
So I was right and like Sec just pointed out, it is not legitimate. In fact if you two were caught I would say the bigger crime would be going into a government facility and your friend getting an id with your information and his pic on it than using said id to take a drug test. Saying you won't get caught are those famous last words people say before they are caught. So instead of just subbing with the urine and not the id, you want to risk possible felony charges for you AND your friend and maybe even federal charges, who knows. The government is so hellbent on fake id's issues by the government and terrorism they might charge you with plotting to blow up the collection site.

The benefit (not having to sneak in a 2 oz bottle, oh the hassle) are not worth the risk, going to prison. Also, you are willing to put your friend at so much risk. I hate to see what you do to your enemies!

Please just get a sub sample from your friend and practice like everyone else does. It isn't rocket science.
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