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Old 04-23-2008, 12:10 AM   #1
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Question Using QF and being patted down

Hey;

I got a test coming up dont know what day but it will be within this month.
I gotta sub, I have QF4, and a few handwarmers.

The testing facility is in the building I work in, and I hear they pat people down before you enter the bathroom. That is making me nervous as if they place there hand near my testicles they would feel the bottle. So this seems to be sort of a challenge to me for this pre-emploment test. So, i never subbed before, I had diluted and passed a pre-employment with flying colors, but ive smoked recently and want to sub.

Im thinking to place the QF in a winter glove along with 1 or 2 hand warmers attached to the QF bottle. My major problem is I dont know the day of test as of yet, or if they will surprise me. I dont want to give to much info but lets say I am working there already, and this new position would bump me higher in position then where im at now.

So im thinking 1 winter glove, the QF with 1 handwarmer banded to bottle and one just in the glove. - place winter glove right were penis is, wear 3 pair tighty whity. and PRAY!!

I was thinking ace bandage but NO GOOD when they pat u down. - So will my solution work? - Right now being that i dont know the date of test, i have my Glove with the QF in it and a heating pad.

Problem with this is, what if they come to my desk and say please come with Us, then take me into the room. - Problems are: QF isnt on my person yet, its in my bag, so i will have to go to the restroom and remove from my bag and put on my person, 2nd problem, no access to microwave, but i do have access to coffee and hot water.

I dunno if i should have this glove on me from tommorow till day of test, this way i dont run to the bathroom, BUT, i want to ativate the heating pad before they call me in to test.

So, im kinda confused as what to do here.

Thanks guys-
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Old 04-23-2008, 01:38 AM   #2
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Default No Frisking

Youre not a criminal being placed under arrest, youre just taking a drug test for a job.

For employment-related U/A's the collector may have you empty your pockets before you submit a sample. The collectors cannot frisk or otherwise touch you. This would constitute groping, and is against the law.
There are many posts throughout the forum that discuss this issue as well.

For tips on hiding the QF bottle, check out the Substitution sticky. Read the thread in its entirety.
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Old 04-23-2008, 02:53 AM   #3
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I was just practicing, my bottle is reading 100deg. nice!!
No microwave, and it took 1 hour. It read in the 90s within 30mins.
Im at ease with the temp now, problem is being patted down.

YES I know there not allowed to do this, but they WILL do this.
I know it for a fact, from another employee who just took the test.

the best place i see so far is where my thing is in (front)
only reason is they dont usually touch ur penis. but they will feel around waist area.

I was told they will check legs from ankels up to scrotum.
Not with hands but arms, to feel for bumps. (im sure this is a legal maneuver so u cant call it groping) need to use Hands to grope. Anyhow.. I put by anus and when u check by scrotum with u feel the bottle. Even behind/under the scrotum is no good.

So im thinking front. Hair area above penis.

OK, ill go back to reading the sticky
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Turn them in to DATIA or the local DA. It is against the law for anyone to touch you unless they have authority to do so. Whether they touch it with their hands, elbows or their boots doesn't matter.
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Turn them in to DATIA or the local DA. It is against the law for anyone to touch you unless they have authority to do so. Whether they touch it with their hands, elbows or their boots doesn't matter.
Exactly!! And collectors are not authorized to lay a hand (or any other body part FTM) on donors taking a drug test for employment.

Know your rights and dont be afraid to assert them!
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