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anxious

hello all. i would like your opinions.

i am freaking out and have read just about every thread here and elsewhere, every medical document i could find, all the stats on detection times, used the silly calculator, read and reread the dilution and subbing stickies, considered both, read all the success stories, and my brain wont quit.

no smoke for 2 mos. while waiting on news for a job. tested (-) after a glass of water on day 39

told i did not get the job. figured it was over - that was day 60

same day, had 4-5 small hits over a 5 hour period. job people called the next day and said they made a mistake, job is mine pending UA.

the 4-5 small hits was 10 days ago. have been exercising. (does that count as occassional by that time?)

test should be this week, weds, thurs or fri. will be 13-15 days out.

now consitently testing (-) with home test after drinking a cup of coffee and 8 oz of juice (no real dilution)

strong lines (not faint) on test - same color as control line - not too worried about 50 ng c/o

Test could be a 20ng c/o - it is a medtox drug of abuse panel 10, and from what i found on "DAT" tests, specifically medtox, c/o for thc is 20 ng

QF not an option.

not looking for guarantees, just your opinions on whether with dil. (moderate, full or light)you think i can fall below 20 if needed

also, how many people have been given a 20ng c/o IA? this is not military or medical, but is a big brother type employer, and they might just go for it.

please help. considering whether i want to go and pay for a private test but i am not sure that will do anything, bcuz i still have to take the test this week either way.

 

Sec

Test for THC is 50 ng/mL cutoff.

You should pass with no problems what-so-ever. Stop worrying.

I don't know what "DAT" is, but it doesn't mean 20 cutoff for THC.

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anxious

thanks Sec. i hope you are right. i am a nervous wreck. i found a description of a "Drugs Of Abuse Screen 10 Panel" on the medtox website and it said 20ng. that is the same name as the test in the employment papers i was given (it was named on the consent) - that is why i am freaking

called them to confirm that is the c/o. however, that is a clinical test, and not a forensic employment test according to the guy i talked with (he did say an employer can choose a 20 ng c/o)

MEDTOX : Test Catalog

at any rate, your thoughts on 20 ng and chances?

Sec

I routinely order 10 panel tests from MedTox all the time. They are always 50 ng/mL. While it is true, the employer can order a THC with 20 cutoff, it is rare and costs over double the original price of the test.

I think you will do fine anyway. Just drink about 20 ounces of gatorade, 1 and a half hours prior to test time.

anxious

thanks honey.

i will try to relax now and stop searching the interwebs for answers. i only end up giving myself stuff to worry about.

 

anxious

looked at the employment docs.

test is a "substance abuse panel 10" test, not a "drugs of abuse screen 10 panel", that i found on medtox's website, which had a 20 ng c/o. hopefully this company is consistent with what sec has seen and orders 50.

should know this week when the test is. possibility it could be next week. (praying)

would be better for a lower limit and would be 20 days from a 1x use.

question - can one drink a 20 oz gatorade every hour and a half before the test, say, starting that a.m., so long as it is only 20 oz, and only every 1.5 hours?

asprin, B2 and rolaids as well.

fyi - (-) this am on 2nd void of day and without drinking anything - would imagine that the sample was still pretty concentrated.

thanks!

Sec

You could drink that much throughout the day, but given your information regarding the negative reading on your second void of the day with no fluid intake, you don't need to. Just drink enough throughout the day to be able to pee on command when they ask you to. The very most you want to drink is the 20 ounces every 1-1/2 hours pace. That way, you won't get a diluted test result. I really think you have nothing to worry about.

anxious

i've plan on asking for the exact name of the test (SAP 10 - ??/gc/ms) and the list of substances tested for, and the limits of each. i am tired of being in the dark when it comes to my privacy and my body and guessing about what is going to happen. seems to be what a lot of people go through.

why not? i am handing my urine to strangers, and i am entitled to know what is going to happen with it, and make sure i actually get the test i am told i am getting, and consent to right ? what's to prevent your employer from changing the limits, or running additional tests?

we are all too afraid to ask any questions bcuz we are afraid we look "guilty".
we are giving up bodily fluids without an understanding of what is going to happen with it, and expected to consent.

the precursor to the patriot act.

sure, many of us have become educated by asking questions here, reading and sharing experiences.

otherwise we would be in the dark, and are willing to do so because we are afraid we look guilty.

if your doctor told you to piss in a cup, and that he was going to test it for drugs, you would ask questions. why should this be any different?

anxious

test is next week - will be 80 days out, minus one minor set back at day 60 (20 days from test, 60 days clean b4 that) passing 50ng no problem. recall i was concerned about 20ng.

told by facility test is a SAP-9, not a 10 panel and thc is 50ng. even tho the consent i signed said 10 panel. the woman at the lab said they stopped testing for one of the items for some reason. i was not paying attention to what she said. my bad. so, already, we have a change in the test i agreed to vs. the test being administered. finding out what's going on is not unreasonable.

the woman at the faclity was funny. i called, did not have to give my name. just told her the name of the employer for whom i was taking the test. when i asked for the test name (SAP 9 - 50/20/15 gc/ms, etc) she said "thc is a 50ng cut off if that's what you want to know - that is what everyone wants to know" she was nice and helpful.

point being - don't be afraid to ask questions. this is your body, and your medical history.

it is not unusual for someone to be concerned about disclosing their prescription medications (something an employer could not ask you pre-hire, but gets around by having you list them on a drug test form) and, asking what they are tested for and in what amounts.

an employer could not ask you if you take xanax or klonopin or ativan, or vicodin, but, can "ask" indirectly via a drug test. you are sharing your HIPPA protected medical information, and have a right to ask questions.

if anyone asks you why you need to know, simply tell them it is your medical information and your privacy you are concerned about and you would like to know what you are being tested for and what the test parameters are. no one should have a problem with that.

anxious

big day 2morrow.

practiced 2day w/just 20 oz of gatorade. had adulteration strips as well.

creatine was at second to last (on right) and SG was between a dark green and a light green - i was worried it looked a little blue green, but it was not more blue than green. I should add that the strip in the picture is not my strip, just a photo of one that came with the kit.

anyway - below is the test. solid line, yay.


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thanks to Sec for her advice. i am sure i would have over diluted w/o it. tomorrow is the day. keep your fingers crossed.