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lew scannon · 05-07-2008, 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MonarchX

EDIT: I found WIki - Specific gravity - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia I think it means that specific gravity levels will be off ONLY if you subbed with some crappy urine, but it should not be a problem with dilution.

Specific Gravity will be a problem with over-dilution as well as a bad sub.

*From the DHHS guidelines :

Quote:

Substituted

A urine specimen is reported substituted when the creatinine concentration is less than 2
mg/dL and the specific gravity is less than or equal to 1.0010 or greater than or equal to
1.0200 on both the initial and confirmatory creatinine tests (i.e., the same colorimetric
test may be used to test both aliquots) and on both the initial and confirmatory specific
gravity tests (i.e., a refractometer is used to test both aliquots) on two separate aliquots.

Dilute

A urine specimen is reported dilute when the creatinine concentration is greater than or
equal to 2 mg/dL but less than 20 mg/dL and the specific gravity is greater than 1.0010
but less than 1.0030 on a single aliquot.

* - Source: http://www.workplace.samhsa.gov/Drug...ary%202005.pdf

MonarchX · 05-07-2008, 11:34 PM

So... how do you make sure your specific gravity stays good?

FXjohn · 05-08-2008, 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MonarchX

Oops, I meant dilute. How much creatine daily for that?

And what about specific gravity? Can you mess it up if you drink too much water/dilute? I know my last test checked for specific gravity, and threshold is 1.003-1.050.

aren't there test strip to buy where you can guage the specific gravity?

lew scannon · 05-08-2008, 01:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FXjohn

aren't there test strip to buy where you can guage the specific gravity?

Yes there is. In addition to SG, you can also check the creatinine with these.

Do a search for drug adulteration test kits on google.com

MonarchX · 05-08-2008, 01:06 AM

Are strips as effective as cups?

Cups have FDA Cleared on them and strips don't.

**Sec** · 05-08-2008, 01:39 AM

MonarchX, I have asked and asked you to keep your questions in the same thread. Why haven't you done that?

The adulteration strips are attached to some cups or you can buy them separate. If you want a guarantee of what you are doing will pass, then fork out the dough and have a laboratory test done while you are attempting to substitute. I'd imagine that after 6-7 tries and a couple hundred dollars later you will perfect it pretty good or give up trying.

There is no upper limit on creatine, so your question doesn't matter. If you get the shits, cut back on the creatine. Simple as that.

There are no guarantees in drug testing. Your questions focus in on getting definate answers for every possible variable and factor. There just isn't one. You have been questioning us on drug testing since last November that I can find at a quick glance. IF you haven't learned what you need to know after bombarding us with "what-if" and "but suppose" questions for the past 6 months, you will never learn what you need to know. Either you have a learning disability or you seriously need to give up smoking pot.

Take the damn test already. Put us out of your misery!!!

MonarchX · 05-09-2008, 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sec

MonarchX, I have asked and asked you to keep your questions in the same thread. Why haven't you done that?

The adulteration strips are attached to some cups or you can buy them separate. If you want a guarantee of what you are doing will pass, then fork out the dough and have a laboratory test done while you are attempting to substitute. I'd imagine that after 6-7 tries and a couple hundred dollars later you will perfect it pretty good or give up trying.

There is no upper limit on creatine, so your question doesn't matter. If you get the shits, cut back on the creatine. Simple as that.

There are no guarantees in drug testing. Your questions focus in on getting definate answers for every possible variable and factor. There just isn't one. You have been questioning us on drug testing since last November that I can find at a quick glance. IF you haven't learned what you need to know after bombarding us with "what-if" and "but suppose" questions for the past 6 months, you will never learn what you need to know. Either you have a learning disability or you seriously need to give up smoking pot.

Take the damn test already. Put us out of your misery!!!

I just posted my subbing experience in the SUB sticky. Thanks for the support Sec. Its OVER (but I don't know if it worked).

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