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MonarchX

1.Aspirin screws up EMIT drug detection a bit, which is why it is recommended to take if you wish to dilute. Drug cups use same method of detection as EMIT systems, but EMIT is more sophisticated. But does that mean that aspirin will also help you test negative even with a cup test or will it help JUST with EMIT?


2. And a little side question. Substitution method requires you to drink a huge amount of water/liquid. However, a friend of mine had 3 cups of water early morning after first urination and his urine was almost clear and he passed a cup test. Would that be even considered a real dilution since it was just 3 cups of regular water?

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Trocisp

Dilution requires you to drink an amount of water sufficient to get your current THC metabolites under the cutoff, "huge amount" may be a mischaracterization.

"Real dilution"? The "Dilution method" isn't a set-in-stone term, dilution isn't anything more than drinking enough liquid to ensure that your THC metabolites are less than the predefined cutoff levels.

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MonarchX

I guess you could call it a small dilution. I just think that with 3 cups of water, even someone who doesn't take creatine can pass creatine levels.

Trocisp

Dilution is checked for by testing creatine levels, so to get around that you creatine load.

Creatine loading is just a way of not being detected.

MonarchX

Thanks. I never got an answer as to how much creatine one should take. I take 5g (1 heaped tea spoon) a day for my bodybuilding and I've been doing so for many months. If one wants to sub - should he/she take more than that 3 days prior to the screening date?

Also, any idea why people drink cranberry juice instead of water? Doesn't it have something to do with specific gravity?

 

Trocisp

If one wants to substitute, it doesn't matter what you eat or drink.

Because they mistakenly believe that cranberry juice cleans THC out of your system faster than Water.

MonarchX

Oops, I meant dilute. How much creatine daily for that?

And what about specific gravity? Can you mess it up if you drink too much water/dilute? I know my last test checked for specific gravity, and threshold is 1.003-1.050.

Trocisp

Perhaps you should read the thread stickied at the top of this very forum titled "DILUTION: Tips, Tricks and guidelines by N2."

I would guess that it has tips, tricks and guidelines for dilution, by a fellow named "N2."

MonarchX

Thanks again. I know how to sub. I understand how to dilute. I am searching right now but I am not finding any reasonable info on how to keep specific gravity levels properly... I THINK labs check for creatine levels and if those are too low then they check specific gravity, but I am not sure. I truly can't find anything specific about keeping specific gravity on the right level...

EDIT: I found WIki - Specific gravity - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia I think it means that specific gravity levels will be off ONLY if you subbed with some crappy urine, but it should not be a problem with dilution.

Trocisp

I made a mistake and put Substitution where I meant Dilution.