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testhero

hello, this is my first post on the boards, long time reader though! Here goes my question!

i am 23 years old, 6 feet, 2 inches @ 180 lbs. i run 5 days a week, 1-2 miles, and lift weights 3-4 days a week. I eat healthy, and have always drank at least 4 16oz bottles of water a day minimum. the rest of my fluids are always juice, for i hate pretty much every type of soda. coincidentally, i have started taking Creatine monohydrate supplements on monday, may 19th 2008 @ 20g a day loading dose (muscle building purposes) as well as vitamin b complex multivitamins (and yes, my urine looks like antifreeze).

below is a time line for my smoking habits

Before march 15th, i was a relatively light smoker, 2-3 hits a day.

march 15th, 2008 I quit cold turkey.
april 25th, 2008 about 7 hits total (abstained for 47 days)
april 26th, 2008 about 5 hits total
may 16th, 2008 2 hits off a bowl (abstained for 21 days)
may 17th, 2008 2 hits off a bowl

may 18th, 2008 got a job offer, told I will have to take a "physical + drug screen" this coming thursday, may 22nd 2008

so, total time since my last smoke (of 2 hits x 2 days) is going to be 5 days. for the first 2 days of the 5 before the test, i continued running and lifting as normal, as well as upped my fluid intake (related to Creatine regimen). for the next 3 days, i have continued the creatine regimine, as well as started to eat alot of fatty foods and hamburger/other red meats, while upping my fluid intake (related to the creatine regimen).

tomorrow morning (day before the test) i plan on buying 2 at home marijuana tests (one from cvs, one from walgrens, shooting for 2 different brands). i plan on testing my first urine of the day, as well as the first part of the void (deliberately not catching mid stream for a "worst case scenario")

based upon the results, one of two things are going to happen. either a) it's negative, and I am going to follow N2's dilution method just to be safe, or b) it is positive and i'm still going to do N2's dilution method, but considering substitution.

based on the information i have provided, as well as extensive research on my behalf, i assume i am going to be just fine with a 2-3 day clearance time for a technical "one time use" (which means im clear now); however, a second opinion cant hurt, thus my inquiry.

would it be possible for me to pass, based upon my given information, using N2's dilution method. if not, i plan to substitute (if possible). after reading on these boards, terms such as "medical exam and physical" tend to be monitored, no? if so, then substitution is out of the question. I believe the response i will get will be as follows "bring a substitue to be safe, if you can use it, use it, if not, go for the dilution method."

also, I report for orientation/training/paperwork/drug test at 8 am, and it lasts until 5pm. they did not specify when the test would be, or even if it would be that day. I assume that either they are going to do a test on the spot (dipstick, less accurate for dilution detection related to no ph/creatine testing) or tell me to go to a local hospital either that day or sometime after for a drug test that will be sent off to a lab (which I assume would be the case).

not knowing when the test will be will severely inhibit dilution, since its time sensitive, no? your guess is as good as mine, i've never had a situation like this before...its always been "report to the local hospital's lab at X time on X day for a test" which i assume is what they will tell me on my orientation.

thanks for your input, this is a wonderful site full of knowledge, and i feel very lucky to have such a resource for this illogical, and fatally flawed "testing" all of us have had to endure.

 

sk8r1234

I AM IN THE SAME EXACT SITUATION AS YOU. exact same. I have a test thursday and i last smoked on the 16th. I havent smoked since 420 before the 16th. I bought ah ome test and passed. hopefully i pass the lab one.

testhero

yea man, its pretty lame! check this out...

Sterling Reference Laboratories | Understanding THC & Detection Time

the reef i smoked was rather good quality, but by no means did i smoke an entire joints worth in both days' sessions (4 hits total) combined. I have a feeling that we are both just overly paranoid (but who wouldn't) and everything is going to be just fine. honestly, I don't really believe that the old saying "30-90 days to get our of your system" is true, unless of course, you are a sloth who smokes an eighth a day. i've only taken 2 drugs tests before (both for my father for a job -- hes the boss at where i worked) during summer between college, and during that time i was smoking 3 bowls a day of the best reefer on campus, and i quit for exactly 30 days each time. who knows, i'm looking for some of the familiars to come along and shed some insight!

good luck buddy!

anxious

let us know how you do on the home test on your first void. that will give you the best indication of what you need to do.

testhero

well, first urine of the day came back positive for thc. mind you, i woke up at 8am, drank 1 8oz serving of pineapple juice, and didn't get home with the urine tests until just now (1pm my time). this is an extreme scenario, with my last fluid intake / void last night at 10pm, thats 13 hours without fluids / urinating. I am going to go ahead with the dilution process, as well as secure a substitute. any suggestions on if dilution would work, or should i just plan to substitute?

thanks!
testhero

 

Sec

With your history, I think you are a great candidate for dilution. Since you don't know exactly when your test will be, If I were you, I would drink Powerade, fruit juice, etc... throughout the day. Keep well hydrated as best as you can while going through the orientation process. I believe you can pass if you are hydrated enough.

Otherwise sub.

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testhero

thank you very much for your input...i really dont know if you guys realize the wonderful work you do here. I feel that drug testing for marijuana is fatally flawed; why should i be punished for having a few hits off a bowl a week ago, when people can snort all the coke and pop as many pills as they want 2-3 days before a test. as i'm sure you're all aware, tobacco and alcohol kill many times more than all other drugs combined per year, yet we are still treated like criminals. i for one am confident that by using n2's technique, i will pass with flying colors.

the preliminary test i took this morning (even though i was going for worse case scenario--see above) still left me rattled. i plan on waking up at 4:30 am to begin the dilution process, as well as starting aspirin the night before. once again, I would like to thank you all for your hard work and knowledge. please feel free to add any other comments and ill be checking these forums until i leave in the morning.

one final question--i have 2 40mg lasix pills. should i bother with them?

test results will be posted when i learn of them