gak hater

thanks for the welcome sm55,your reviews are very informative.

a main reason i want to avoid any plastics is to stay away from
whats called bisphenol a its also known as bpa.
it is used to harden plastics,bpa can leak from food storage containers
into the contents. a majority of plastics have bpa in them.
bpa mimics estrogen,studies have linked it to increased risk of diabetes,heart diesase
and infertility.
is that something you want to smoke thru??
the epa tells you its safe,
health experts tell you to play it safe and use glass.
hmm,i think i will believe the experts before the government..
thats why the vrip is very very appealing to me.
if you want to avoid bpa like i do, a good tip is
to look for containers that have a number 7 in the recycling code
those usually don't have bpa in them or just avoid plastic containers alltogether.
i hope they come out with the new 007 kit soon, i'm anxious to try it out..

5drive

You have it backwards. The #7 (polycarbonate), DOES contain Bisphenol A.

"Bisphenol A can leach into food from the protective internal epoxy resin coatings of canned foods and from consumer products such as polycarbonate tableware, food storage containers, water bottles, and baby bottles. The degree to which BPA leaches from polycarbonate bottles into liquid may depend more on the temperature of the liquid or bottle, than the age of the container. BPA can also be found in breast milk.

One reason people may be concerned about BPA is because human exposure to BPA is widespread. The 2003-2004 National Health and Nutrition Examination Survey (NHANES III) conducted by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) found detectable levels of BPA in 93% of 2517 urine samples from people six years and older. The CDC NHANES data are considered representative of exposures in the United States. Another reason for concern, especially for parents, may be because some animal studies report effects in fetuses and newborns exposed to BPA."
Since You Asked - Bisphenol A

Common plastics that are considerd to be safer are high-density polyethylene (#2), Low-density polyethylene (#4) or polypropylene (#5).

You shouldn't assume that the plastics used in vapes, vape tubing etc. are polycarbonate either. The I-inhale uses a high heat polymer designed by General Electric (Ultem 1000) in the outer shell. The interior plastic is a liquid crystal polymer that has FDA approval for use in repeated food-contact applications. The vapor tubes used with the Purple-Days vape are polypropylene #5.

The Lifestyle and Easy Vape digital boxes have a housing made of polycarbonate, but the shells on the vast majority of vapes are insulated or isolated from the heat. It's hard to see how BPA would leach off of a vape box housing, but there are plenty of wood alternatives in this price range if anyone is concerned about it.

GG=ground glass. GG used where two glass pieces connect provides a semi-secure connection due to the friction.

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stonemonkey55

Thanks for the info, it is this exact reason why I like to stay with glass. I know a lot of the other materials have been deemed safe by the FDA or some other authority, but sometimes I just wonder if there is a hidden agenda or if I can even believe what I read. What I do KNOW is that glass will NOT off gas and is definitely safe at the temperatures what we will be using it for.

The mini 007 kit, from what I understand, will be pretty much the same as the current set up, except that they will be using a mini VWT (VRIP water pipe/tool) and a smaller Pelican case. You can always use any glass water pipe that you might have laying around or one that you found at your local head shop to find the right size you need

updated the video with some new info -

420Downunder

Any word on when he'll start producing these with a GonG bowl? I really don't understand his reluctance, his initial reasoning that the joints would lock with heat is not true as perfectly demonstrated by the herborizer. Using the specially shaped bowl for it isn't a problem if he'd get rid of the obsolete sliders which utilise silicone o rings. It may seem picky but after I spent alot of money on my GonG setups I refuse to take a backward step, otherwise it's a great product that I'd buy in a heartbeat he just needs to change his views on GonG.

stonemonkey55

420downunder – I am 100% with you on this! As a matter of fact, you should write him an email to let him know! headvripper@vriptech.com Sometimes I get the feeling that when I communicate what the forums are saying to him, he thinks it is just my personal wish list versus what the masses are saying…LOL

I know he has had trouble getting the intake tooled correctly to accept the heat wand (mine was a handblown from the glass blower, he’s had trouble duplicating it, which is the reason for the delay) and I showed him how the Herbo heat injector mated with the Herbo bowl. I think he saw the light after that, but I told him priority #1 should be the lower bowl connecting via GG joint, agreed? If the heat wand and the upper intake were GG that’d be icing on the cake.

420Downunder

Correct it's primarily the bowl connection to the downstem that needs to be GonG, the rest as you say would just be icing. I have no issue whatsoever using a special vriptech bowl . I'll fire him off an email later today letting him know I'm waiting on the development of a GonG bowl before purchasing one .

stonemonkey55

420downunder - no doubt! that's what I love about this industry right now, we the people, have some power in influencing what products will come out in the future. The beautiful thing is, with a minor tweak, ie making the downstem bowl have a GG joint, can bring in new buyers (like yourself) and if you already own Vrip products, you can just swap out one piece due to it's modularity, to take advantage of any new features.

Still waiting on n3rdglass to get back to me....

jikaboom123

Although it's a long while off, I will definitely be putting this into my list of the next vaporizer I may purchase.

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stonemonkey55

Jikaboom - last I heard, it should be shipping by end of January. I'll PM you with more info! It's closer to completion than you think.

gak hater

i saw 420downunder's set up with
a roor bong and a herbo stem/heater setup
over at fc..
my question is would it be easy to use the vrip set up mated to a roor bong
like 420 did with the herbo???
hmm now you have me thinking.....