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Old 07-09-2009, 03:31 AM   #1
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Default Been awhile, about to get Volcano

So I have been rocking the cheap Chinese Vaporite. It has done me alright and I definitely know I am in love with vapeing. I tried smoking again and it was horrifically painful.

Well, I was told that vaporizing is on another level than smoking. I know that to be true but then someone told me a Volcano is "transcendent".

So now I know I need to get it. I just gotta figure out when I have enough cash.

O and btw, should I get the dial or digital? Is the dial really easier to clean?
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You might wanna check around before you spend all that cash on a Volcano...the HerbalAire for one IMHO is a much better deal and overall vaporizor and cost 50% less.

Just thought I would toss that out there!

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Probably someone with little to no vaporizing experience, or someone trying to justify the big bucks he paid. The Volcano only transcends other vapes in price. It's an excellent vape-very reliable with good resale value, but it has no special technology to enable better or more vapor vs. other models, like the herbalAire mentioned by Bullethead. I used a herbalAire on a regular basis for a couple of years and it fills a bag with vapor just as well as the 'cano, just slower. If anything it's even more efficient.

The Extreme is another good option for hundreds less. Both will also do direct draw, while you're restricted to bag use only with the 'cano. Bags are easy, but most people, if they get into using different vapes and enjoy the vapor experience, end up preferring direct draw/whip mode over bagged vapor. With a bag, all your vapor hits are the same, but they're also diluted vs. whip use. So vapor taste is richer with a whip unit.

If you do get a 'cano, I'd get the Classic and save the extra $130. With the Classic you get an extra year of warranty and you can add a little to that savings and get a good quality whip vape, or just apply it to herb.
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I already have a whip vape, the Vaporite. It's good, I mean it's great; but being told there is better out there, it makes me crave more. Now, is it true that the vapor itself is no different? That it is just quicker, easier to use, cooler or that you get more vapor - just not a different type.

I wouldn't need it then. I have just been told that it is a totally different high.

Mine is a little frustrating though because I don't know which temp it should be on. I'd like it to be in the 200's but I am told THC doesn't get activated until 380 or so.
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Old 07-09-2009, 09:58 PM   #5
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The Vaporite is in the class of vapes where you can't depend on the number on display to accurately represent the true vaping temp. You really have to find the temp as if it's an analog vape. Find the vaping range-start low and see where you start to get vapor. Then crank it up where your vapor is thick and harsh and your remains are very dark brown to black. Your best setting will be somewhere in between, where your remains are a light to medium brown. You can vape at a high temp if you can take the harsh vapor, but you're getting close to combustion/smoke and higher toxin levels. At whatever setting you decide to use, whatever number is on display will be your reference point. Don't worry if the display number is lower or higher than you expect.

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Totally different from other vaporizers? Absolutely not. Vaporization is a pretty simple process. Heat the herb to vapor range and harvest the vapor. Vapes only differ in their efficiency and how they process the vapor. Using bags is definitely easier than a whip. With a whip your draw speed is a factor in the vaping temp, while the pump or fan on a big fill provides a constant air flow. But you can get a higher vapor to air ratio with a whip, making for richer vapor hits. You don't get more vapor, just more vapor per hit.
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I already have a whip vape, the Vaporite. It's good, I mean it's great; but being told there is better out there, it makes me crave more. Now, is it true that the vapor itself is no different? That it is just quicker, easier to use, cooler or that you get more vapor - just not a different type.

I wouldn't need it then. I have just been told that it is a totally different high.

Mine is a little frustrating though because I don't know which temp it should be on. I'd like it to be in the 200's but I am told THC doesn't get activated until 380 or so.
The same material vaporized at the same temperature is the same. What you have been told is only part truth. Difference sensations come from vaping at different temperatures. If you use a variable temperature vaporizer you can control the exact type of feeling you want. Higher temps tend to be stronger but also begin to have some of the unhealthy aspects but still far better than combustion.
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Price,and Compatibility, are in harmony, when using a Volcano Vaporizer. I've had My Digital Volcano, for almost a Year Now. Figure average 9 fine Balloons a Night, for a beautiful sleep,and a slight buzz, in the Morning. Of course everybody's vaporizer is the best...to Them. There's No blind "taste test", BUT search this Forum. I've never seen a negative comment, other than price. Mine looks,smells,and works Like New! I have a Year warranty left. If it last longer than that, I'll have to "save up" for another one.
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The thing is that you can get the SAME thing plus MORE with a HerbalAire than you can with a Volcano and it cost half the price? Im curious how you figure the price and compatibility are in harmony when the Volcano falls short and cost twice as much? I dont get it......

Not trying to be jerk or nothing, just trying to understand, please dont take my post the wrong way.

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Well, I was told that vaporizing is on another level than smoking. I know that to be true but then someone told me a Volcano is "transcendent".
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your 'someone' is absolutely right. Vaping with a Volcano is utterly transcendent. It's pure joy along with a big smile on your face

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O and btw, should I get the dial or digital?
I've had mine, the Classic, for 2+ years and not only still love it but would not hesitate to get another should the need arise.
Insofar as to which one to purchase, I'd probably stick with this one. Simple elegance and peak efficiency are the order of the day.

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Probably someone with little to no vaporizing experience, or someone trying to justify the big bucks he paid. The Volcano only transcends other vapes in price.
witchvape's 'someone' wasn't commenting on vape vs vape. He/she/it/undecided was comparing it to 'smoking'.
Common 5Drive, 'ol buddy 'ol pal. That's over the top even for you. You've left no doubt over the years regarding your disdain for the Volcano and of course you're entitled to your opinion but this hyperbole is really a bit much.
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Bags are easy, but most people, if they get into using different vapes and enjoy the vapor experience, end up preferring direct draw/whip mode over bagged vapor. With a bag, all your vapor hits are the same, but they're also diluted vs. whip use. So vapor taste is richer with a whip unit.
"Most people"?
You have some statistical studies that warrants such a statement? Doubtful.
If I were to accurately gauge all the people I know, they know, etc. that have used both bag and whip I'd say the feedback as to preference is no more or less than even.
A great bag vape like the Volcano is an awesome experience, as is it's whip worthy counterpart.
I have, amongst my five vaporizers a VBrothers and like it just fine. Additionally, I've enjoyed using the likes of the SSV and DaBudda. They certainly bring on wonderful thick hits indeed but then I also get wonderfully tasty swirling thick hits from my Volc.

This whole rip about "diluted" hits is absurd. Etiher you're talking about the Herbalaire or you haven't used a Volcano enough to properly blow your hair back.

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The thing is that you can get the SAME thing plus MORE with a HerbalAire than you can with a Volcano and it cost half the price? Im curious how you figure the price and compatibility are in harmony when the Volcano falls short and cost twice as much? I dont get it......
The hits we get are only part of the picture.
The superb engineering, the elegant design and formidable function of the Volcano is what sets it apart.
I agree that it's price point is higher than it should be especially now with all the solid competitors moving into the market but unless money is really the sticking point then insofar as bag vapes go the Volcano still blows the competition away.
That of course, as they say, is my 2 cents...
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The someone actually had a box vape and he said that the volc was on another level from the box vape.
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