Buzzby

I recently picked up a good convection vaporizer and I think it's the greatest thing since papers. I can get high on half the amount of weed, so it'll pay for itself in a couple of months. There is a distinct difference in the quality of the high between vaping and smoking the same weed.

If I roll the weed up into a joint and smoke it I get high but I also get confused, slow, sleepy, lose my short-term memory, and find it difficult to organize my thoughts. If I vape the same amount of weed I get twice as high but remain amazingly clear-headed, which is exactly the kind of high I prefer. It's very similar to the effects of certain off-topic fungi.

I'm wondering why there is such a dramatic difference. I think it's because whatever components of the weed that produce the annoying side-effects are not getting included in the vapor.

Does anyone have more concrete knowledge about the difference in the high between vaping and smoking?

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PurpleKushSkunk

I kinda get the same thing too.
I get a better high with the glass pipe than a joint and much prefer smoking in glass pipe because you smoke pure weed contents instead of smoking weed contents WITH paper contents.
Blunts give me a way different high than a pipe and make me sleepy, and stupid as heck, however now I stopped using blunts because smoking blunt contents over a long term can become dangerous to your health.
Later.

Mamabudz

You pegged it Buzzby ---

The vap point is set low for release of THC but does not release as much of the other cannabinoids -- This has it's benefits, as you can tell...but also a detriment if you are in fact smoking for the effects of the other cannbinoids too --

I smoke often for the sedative effect on my often manic mind ~~ I need to slow down the thought process and "dumbify" myself for a time -- so a vap for me is often not the best method for my needs.

Other cannabinoids may have additional effects on pain relief and anti-inflamatory properties

Cannabis is an amazing plant -- and the fact that we can without the over processing of the pharmeceutical industry access various levels of the plants potential is another benefit. With Vaping, Oil suspensions, Tinctures, Water filtration, and Joints -- the usefullness for this plant for recreational as well as medical purposes is extensive.

And don't think I minimize recreational use -- it is an important part of dealing with the high stress quick moving world of today (and tomorrow and even next week )

...have a cookie

Hugz,

Mama Budz

Higher Logic

Vaporization actually produces much more CBN and less THC than traditional smoking methods (bong, pipe, joint). The figure is around 30% less THC, which explains why the high is much different. As you know, CBN holds most of the medicinal properties compared to THC which is mainly for psychoactive purposes. CBN also counters the effects of THC. Why does a vaporizer produce more CBN? Can't really give you a definite answer, but I suspect it has to do something with the differences in how both methods release cannabinoids. A flame is much hotter than a temperature-controlled hotplate. CBN is produced from THC via chemical oxidation, and a vaporizer would allow for more oxygen production than a flame would.

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Buzzby

Does that imply that if you turn the heat up on the vape you would get a more "smoking-like" high? And if you'd get the cleanest high by turning it down and taking more hits?

Very interesting! I'll have to do some experiments and see if it works.

Mamabudz

...well...it's been my experience and the experience of my "crew" ~~ that is a small and select group from which to extrapolate a statistic .... but by all means, experiment!

HL -- I love you dude -- it's like clockwork *slam* you get that statistical stuff up there as if we were a well practiced duet on this topic.

...have a macaroon

Hugz,

Mama Budz

(Man o' Manishevitz...Hag Sameach to all )

Buzzby

I question that. Most of what I've read says that THC is the most important component for medical purposes. If CBN is so effective, why don't they produce a CBN pill instead of a THC capsule (Marinol)? It wouldn't have the silly side effects and would further the cause of the prohibitionists/big pharm.

Mamabudz

THIC was the first cannabinoid isolated and the one in greatest amounts.

If they were to go an acknowledge that yet another ...and possibly Another (CBD) cannabinoid have medicinal propoerties, why where would that leave Them I ask you?

And so Sativex and GW Pharmeceuticals are working with whole plant extracts rather than one cannabinoid at a time. Further studies on specific individual cannabinoids (and their function as anti oxidants in brain damage for example) are being reviewed by Universities in "furren" countries such as Spain, Italy and Israel,

GanjaGirl420

o.o Well, if I think about it, a vapourizer gets rid of the majority of the nasty stuff in the bud that would give you a headache and a weired high. Kind of like a bong or a bubbler it cleans out the air, only a vapourizer does a hell of a lot better job than just a bubbler or bong.

xD Am I right on this? After all, I've never used a vapourizer and I'm taking a half-educated guess.

Buzzby

There's no "nasty stuff" in the bud. What's nasty is the byproducts from burning bud. These are the same as the byproducts of burning just about any kind of plant material.

I have another question for the vape cognoscenti: is there any use for what's left over after you've vaped some weed. It smells good. I wonder if, smoked or eaten, it would have the sedative effects missing from the vape high.