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t-1000

Not true

If you grind it all up nicely you are rewarded with a milky thick bag full of vapor. Otherwise it's thin.

Grinding is crucial.

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5drive

Interesting that two such similar vapes would perform so differently.

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shadybeep

I bought a vaporstar a couple of weeks ago, and id mostly agree with everything written in the original review, its excellent, and not just in effect, its also fun to use, somewhat addictively so. Unlike the OP I havent yet perfected it, although I get consistent lovely hits now, sometimes I do burn it a bit. Either that or end up not utilising the herbs fully.
Its quite possible im just inept though
Generally I have been using the vaporstar till mostly depleted, and putting the remains in the herbalaire for another bag. (Although if you burned it a bit, this goes horribly wrong and tastes like doom).

The learning curve is somewhat steep I find, who when they try it generally just get nothing whatsoever off it and go away thinking its rubbish, but then they are cheap enough for you to all buy one anyhow.. its still a bit annoying when you have guests.
On the plus side, id like to reiterate, this thing is excellent. Its tastier than the herbalaire. Plus, its really cheap and efficient, and seems very strong to me at least. One thing that may or may not be attractive to you is I find the vaporstar to be much more incriminating looking. My herbalaire stays forever on my desk with not a word, but I have to put away the bong. This is somewhat annoying, but it brought back fond memories for me, and I have only just become coherent enough to write this

Two things I would say if you are going to buy one, I bought it with a small bong, and also bought one of the borosilicate ones mentioned elsewhere in this thread. They are nice little bongs, but VERY small, and i have ended up using the bigger one more as it lets you see it fill with delicious vapours, making it much easier to get a nice hit. (The bigger one is only about 6.5 inches high, so not enormous). Also, a decent flame makes an enormous difference in the ease of use, I bought a metal refillable and the consistent size of flame is much nicer.

For the price, there isnt a lot to it, but its well worth it, and for the effect, its about £50 too cheap and wonderful.

SuperTorch

Finally a second review.

Yea A larger flame will get things going faster, but a medium flame by nature lowers scorch mistakes, I go back and forth but I agree sometimes a bigger flame just gets it going and is more fun/less effort. small flames like when a lighter is running out of fuel are real tough to use.

The VaporStar can be hidden very fast as long as you keep you items collected in one place.

If your scorching more than you want lower the amount in the bowl, theres a point where you still get Vapors but its very hard to scorch. Learn the largest bowl you can get with out scorching and then stick with it. Every now and then I think I'm going to load a big bowl, then I scorch it and realize I had already known not to exceed a certain amount.(I always grind my legal herbs)

New people to vaping just can't learn it in one hit and it helps if they understand the concept of what their trying to do, trying to explain it to someone who's intoxicated can be a bit trying, but they usually do by just a few hits.


Truthfully the VaporStars only stealth plus is the fact that is can be hidden ultra fast, other than that it is beat by most electric units in regards to stealth. The reason why is if you are in a dark room or worse a vehicle theres noting more obvious than a lighter that stays lit for 10 seconds. Even if someone sees the flame light(even off walls) through a window it's obvious your getting intoxicated. If you had say a Vapolution in a car Swims enemy's would have no idea what swim was doing, but if swim used a lighter for 10 seconds at a time every minute over the course of 10 minutes well seeing that would be obvious. So the VaporStars stealth lies at home with a predetermine spot to take it if needed, it then can be fully hid in 5 seconds with proper planing(something nothing else can match but with proper planing even electric units can be put away fast), outside of that its not stealthy at all and even gives the appearance of something worst than tobacco because most people don't know about lighter based vaporizers so they think HMMM...what can they be doing that requires a lighter to be lit for ten seconds at a time. Home with lights on is the only place I use my legal herbs. Thats another plus about electric you can use them in the dark. and don't have to look at your hits.

For the money the VaporStar should be in everyones collection, surly theres got to be a time when you don't have the 10 minutes to wait for and electric to fully heat up. Theres your VaporStar ready to deliver 6 fast hits in under 3 minutes before you head out the door.

The J still holds all of the aces other than the smoke factor, The rolled J is the fastest of all to use, when its gone there is no paraphernalia left. From a distance you could be smoking a Marlboro. Everyone knows how to use a J.

The point is one doesn't cancel the other, The VaporStar Rocks, I knew when I saw it and confirmed it when I bought it. It's not perfect but its worth every penny and more.

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shadybeep

Yeah, by larger flame i didnt mean an actually large one, just the disposable adjustable lighters I get in the shops here tend to utterly die after about 3 minutes of use, providing only the tiniest of flames for the rest of their life, which makes it VERY slow and hard to judge. A nice clipper would most likely be much better, but they seem to have disappeared from the area around my house

Id agree entirely though about the utility of a vaporstar though, Its lovely, fast and tasty. And actually, It was your original review which made me get it, so thanks!

Id also agree about the joint thing, if only my lungs could handle it still.. although since vaping, I can get away with the odd one or two with no ill effects.

 

SuperTorch

Like all of the top of the line vaporizers, legal herbs leave a lot to be desired in all aspects to say the least. They have nothing on them to be turned to vapor for the most part, I hope my signature isn't sending the wrong message as I've seen a few complaints regarding the VaporStar and legal herbs not producing vapors. I just know exactly what to put in my VaporStar to really get rocking tasty vapors.

I hope this clears up any issues with the VaporStar not performing, I'm pretty sure none of the vaporizers work if you put cruddy herbs in them. I read a review on a vaporizer website and the guy went on and on about how the VaporStar sucked with his legal herbs, he should have talked to me first and I could have told him which herb really works the best.

Vronin

A bit of a vaping novice here... I haven't used any of the top end vapes, only the aromazap (functional for a while but overall it's junk), and more recently the vaporgenie.

I chose the genie over the vaporstar because of the portability, and extra stealth... I chose the exotic model, I love that it looks more like a tobacco pipe than anything that'd normally be associated with other herbs. Plus I love how a loaded bowl looks like an unloaded pipe. Like the vaporstar the stealth is limited in that you can't be seen doing it because the lit flame is most conspicuous... but as long as you can't be immediately seen and you won't have any surprises, you can do it just about anywhere.

Still, the vaporstar seems to have some advantages... I like that you can see the vapor in the glass... seems like that'd give you a better idea how the vapor forms for every techinque you use in order to allow you to master it. Plus the entertainment value of watching the vapor fill the glass.

Has anyone tried both? I'm wondering if it's worth it to have two lighter based vapes...

SuperTorch

Most are so satisfied with either that they feel no need to get the other, thats my case also. The glass on the Vaporstar is very nice because no matter what stage your in like the last 3 hits of a 12 hit bowl you just watch to see those vapors and you know if they get real thick then your pushing since the hearbs is mostly spent at that point, the add visual clues is a major advantage to just overall correct useage. In the Youtube video of him using it start to finish he averages a hit ever about 20 seconds(including holding the hit in) for five minutes he doesn't even take the time to breath his next inhales are his breath could you image inhaling a J or waterpipe every 20 seconds, its a testiment to the softness of vapor hits and I've found myself doing the very same thing with mine. Its a bad habit really but its kinda what the VaporStar just pulls out of you , Light hold release, light hold release, on and on. Now I hit it in groups of 3 then rest for 2 minutes or so.