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Old 02-18-2008, 02:43 PM   #31
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Welcome nebulator and thanks for the post. Glad you like your new vape. I would suggest moving your temp up to 365F to maximize your THC output. That temp is in the 'clean vaping' range so you won't be adding any toxins to your vapor.

I have the Vapolution too and agree that it's a very different machine and doesn't invite comparison to a vape that most people are going to use for bag delivery.

You don't have to apologize for your English. Considering it's your 2nd language at best, it's very good.
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Old 02-18-2008, 03:34 PM   #32
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Thanks 5drive for your reply and for all the precious tips about vaporization i learned reading your posts!I bought my first vape after your reports about it and i'm happy with it!
However i was talking about celsius degree, here we used to celsius and i know that from the heater temp to the bowl temp there is about 100-120° c. difference so the real airflow temp will be about 200° c.
This is the only issue i don't really like but after few try i don't need to change temps everytime....just set it at 335°c and enjoy the sweet vapor!
I upload some pics later..

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Old 02-18-2008, 09:37 PM   #33
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You may want to try a little lower than 200C. Aim for 185C. Also, there's no guarantee the temp display is 100% accurate. If your remains are a medium brown it's probable that you're in the right temp range. I set my herbalAire at about 370F and my bowls are always fully cooked.

"Significant amounts of benzene began to appear at temperatures of 200° C. (392° F), while combustion occurred around 230° (446°F) or above. Traces of THC were in evidence as low as 140° C. (284° F)."

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thanks for your review and enjoy.
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So 5Drive, is herbalair your favorite vapor machine? Or do you use different machines for different occasions? What is YOUR favorite?
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Old 02-19-2008, 01:30 AM   #36
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"(Important Note: There is NO Teflon in our product, unlike Herbalaire)"

This is what I don't like about this guy. His advertising is extremely negative. He tries to scare you away from other vaporizers. From his ebay auction on the V-Tower- "fact is most vaporizers are very low quality, made offshore as cheaply as possible with only high profits in mind." True enough about some vapes, mostly the cheap box units sold on ebay, but "most vaporizers"? Bullshit.

Hey 5drive, are you sure you can give an assessment on a product you haven't actually used, being that in the above quote it's obvious you got a thing against the makers of Extreme?

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Hey 5drive, are you sure you can give an assessment on a product you haven't actually used
I think you missed the part where 5drive has already said he owned the non-digital version of the V-tower, ON TOP of him noting that the maker of this device went through the trouble of getting this thing certified by...i forget what organization. His point is that the seller tries to use scare tactics with irrelevant points to drum up business instead of just letting the merits of his product speak for itself.
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Old 02-19-2008, 06:15 PM   #38
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Hey 5drive, are you sure you can give an assessment on a product you haven't actually used, being that in the above quote it's obvious you got a thing against the makers of Extreme?

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My only problem with the maker of the Extreme is his 'extremely' negative advertising, and if you'd read my posts on this vape you'd know that. My comments about the unit itself are positive. In fact, I've said that IMO it's the best dual mode vaporizer on the market. As for his advertising, the text below is quoted from his ebay auction.

"most vaporizers are very low quality made with only high profits in mind. Most are made with cheap plastics, aluminum, even wood, held together with toxic glues, and non food grade, non heat safe parts. Even some bowls are made from metal."

According to him, most vapes are made with cheap parts and are unsafe to use. His vape uses metal screens. Why is a metal bowl dangerous while a metal screen sitting at the bottom of a glass bowl isn't? That would even apply to the Volcano, because it uses aluminum (the heating block as well as the filling chamber). Yet he also says this on his website:

"it’s wasn’t until we spent over $600 on a vaporizer that we were happy with the product"

If he's not talking about the Volcano as the product "that we were happy with" then what would it be? If there's another vape in that price range I'd like to know what it is.

Other vape manufacturers have used negative advertising as well, but none have used 'scare tactics' to the extent that this guy does. I would certainly stay away from cheap 'made in China' vapes, especially anything with Digi-Vapor on it, or the made in China VaporBuddy, which is painted with lead paint, but name brand vapes with manufacturer websites that you can actually contact are a different story.

As for not having used the product, since I have made no negative comments about the vape itself, other than unknown reliabilty since it's new to the market, your criticism doesn't hold water. And the comments I HAVE made are only about the air flow components-heater cover and glass connector, and those I have used, since I own the V-Tower, and the Extreme is a modified V-Tower, using the same glass parts in the vapor path.

So let's be clear trc62. My "thing against the makers of Extreme" concerns only the extremely negative advertising, where he's basically saying that his product is the only safe option to paying $600+. That's big time scare tactics and no, I don't like it. And if I have such a big "thing" against the Extreme manufacturer, why do I have positive comments about the Extreme and the previous model V-Tower on this same thread? Next time get your facts straight before you accuse someone of being biased.
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Sorry 5drive, didn't mean to piss you off. I am finding myself being engulfed in the world of Vapors while I'm trying to figure out which one to buy. It's confusing I'm the kind of guy that asks all the questions. A lot of salespeople hate me!I try to be an educated shopper of whatever I plan to buy. I do need to make a decision soon or my wife is going to kill me and the only vapors that will be around then will be the ones from my smoldering grave
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Sorry 5drive, didn't mean to piss you off. I am finding myself being engulfed in the world of Vapors while I'm trying to figure out which one to buy. It's confusing I'm the kind of guy that asks all the questions. A lot of salespeople hate me!I try to be an educated shopper of whatever I plan to buy. I do need to make a decision soon or my wife is going to kill me and the only vapors that will be around then will be the ones from my smoldering grave
I just didn't appreciate being portrayed as biased against a product that I've only spoken well of, especially when I even purchased the previous model. Considering you can get the vape on ebay for $249 (if you're patient), and IMO it hits better than the hebalAire in direct draw mode (but not the vapor rich hits of an SSV, Vapolution, or Vaporwarez), and he says he'll repair or replace the digital controller for $50 out of warranty, it's a good deal and a quality unit as far as I know. I think he should be ashamed of his advertising methods though, and I have no plans to trade in my herbalAire for an Extreme.
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