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tokinGLX

haha, nope, no pressure at all
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tho i have to say, i wont have hands on one myself until saturday, thats when im heading down there(its a couple hour trip and my car is inop right now, so saturday is the soonest that my schedule and my rides are both free).

but i can guarantee, ill have words up that night on my thoughts on the unit. as far as i am aware, it does use exactly the same internals as the ssv, so in terms of performance, this lil pup should be right up there with the ssv. we shall see, we shall see indeed

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5drive

That's quite a switch in choices, from the Vapezilla (Super version I assume) to the Vapor Bros. I think you're smart to reconsider and wait for a report on the Da Buddha ('the da buddha' doesn't sound right, does it?). The zilla works well, but the extra 3 bills for digital isn't worth it for the average vape buyer, and even if you can afford it, the lack of a warranty on parts makes the Vaporfection or Evolutions vape a better choice in that price range IMO. And the Vaporwarez performs as well as the Vapor Bros. with a better warranty and at a slightly better price.

My prediction is that the DB will get good reports and be close enough in performance to the SSV to be a big seller at $168 delivered. In fact, there may be no noticeable drop off in performance at all. If they managed to put the SSV guts in a less expensive shell, this vape should be a big winner for them.

krazydude

From Vapezilla to Vapor Brothers was quite a switch. I tend to like to start expensive but in then end I just had a hard time justifying spending 600 for what i am sure is a great product when i could get a working product for 150. But now I will see how DB compares to SSV and pick from there. I can always upgrade after the fact but if you pay 600 to start and dont like it. I am pumped to get one but Token is the SSV expert so I will be patient and let him review DB and then make a choice. Its always nice to have someone that knows so much about the product that they use (and abuse :-)

toastybiz

Hey Tokin', I see you have pics up on another thread of the DB. Is that from a visit yesterday? If so did you get to try it out yet? I'm very intrigued with the DB, appears to have all the benefits and working guts of the SSV but more affordable to give up the custom glass and such.

I am a little concerned that the DB has a hole, not an entire cut-out, to put the want up to the glass heating element, wondering if maneuvering through that hole is difficult or tricky in any way.

Thanks.

5drive

Since you have to insert the wand into the heater cover, and the hole in the vape housing is larger than that, I'd say that if you have a "maneuvering" problem with the hole, you'd also have a problem finding the right buttons on your TV remote, or maybe even standing up and walking. I liked that he got a nice 'eye level' pic of the DB. While I would have preferred the same connection angle of the SSV, a horizontal angle is fine, and much better than the downward angle of a lot of whip units.

 

tokinGLX

my girlfriend had brought up the same point about the horizontal angle of the connection between the wand and unit. it is a little more inconvenient, but i figure they did this because it comes standard with the ground glass hands free connect, and with the horizontal angle, the wand is less likely to fall out while in use.

i gave it a quick test run yesterday, but i was very limited on my time, so it wasnt fully conclusive.

the major difference between the 2 units, in terms of functionality, is the wand. it is certainly no quick change wand, and it seems to be somewhat difficult to place the screen where you want it. the bowl opening is smaller, so it is not as easy to simply stuff a nug in. also, instead of the tubing sliding over the end of the wand, you stuff the hose inside of the wand.

im not going to comment quite yet about the hits, ive only vaped a half bowl through it so far, so ill get back at yalls in a couple hours on this.

the temp dial doesnt have any kind of indicator on it, but it is not hard at all to take a sharpie and make a little tick. i turned mine on, then all the way up, let it sit for a few minutes, then turned it down so that the heating element was the appropriate color. it took well to the temp fluctuations.

because it does not sit at a cant, db takes up less room. because it takes up less room, it is slightly less stable, but it is far from unstable. youd definitely have to be trying to tip it over for that to happen.



um...thats about all i got right now, close this out with a couple pics

5drive

That's a disappointing report on the wand. This is from the 'wand' section of the DB site:

"How to change the screen on your vaporizer wand!
Well, this screen change is very easy with our patented quick change wand. First take out the old screen. Now take your new screen and put it in the top. Take your stir tool and push it down. Now, you would like to push the screen down and have it slide over but this is difficult. What you do is when the screen is down towards the beginning of the hour glass, FLIP the screen. This FLIP of the screen will make one edge catch in the lip and then all you have to do is push the other end down with the stir tool. You should be able to put in a new screen almost faster and easier than taking the screen out from the front. The process of putting in a new screen is FAST!"

Are you saying that these insertion instructions just don't work as advertised?

Also, on their 'Compare' chart, the 'ease of use' is described as 'very easy', while other vapes are criticized for difficult screen changing. I also have a problem with the chart on the issue of housing temps, in particular the Vapolution, which is described as "Gets Really HOT". In reality, it doesn't even get really warm, at least not to the extent that it's uncomfortable to hold, and that's exactly how I use it with the AIW bowl-holding it in my hand. Anyway, back to the screen topic. Easy screen changing is an important feature to me, and your review of that aspect of the vape takes a lot of the shine off of my first impression. I think the lack of a reference point on the knob is a big oversight too. As you say, it's easily fixed with a marker, but the owner shouldn't have to resort to a 'do it yourself' solution. Of course if you opt to buy one of their custom glass knobs, this is not an issue. You get an indicator built into the knob.

tokinGLX

i must retract my statements about the wand, i had a spare wand(a tip for every body who buys whip vapos- get a spare wand!!!) and tried it out, and it was MUCH better. there was a screen in there already and i noticed just by looking at it that the screen looked to sit in there better. popped it out and put it back in within 30 seconds.

so this would definitely be a case of where the warranty comes in, because as is, the first wand i used made it more frustrating that anything.

ive vaped a couple bowls through it, and tho i dont have both of them plugged in side by side, i dont think you could tell the difference between the two after a blindfold hit-test. this unit is the real poop.

after vaping a bowl, i took the vapeash and loaded it in the ssv wand and fired that up, seeing if i could suck any more hits off of it....and there was nothing.

now i really want to get my hands on a vapor warez box so i can have a proper vape off. db clocks in at the higher end of the under 200$ vapes, but i think it will soon become a serious contender in that range.





this isnt a problem at all. it is just as easy as putting a regular wand up to the ssv.

krazydude

Tokin I ordered a DB unit for myself. I have never vaped before and am pumped about it! Here is my question how do I know where the "ideal" area is for the temperature for vaping? I like the idea of using a sharpie but I was just curious to what the best way to turn it on and get it ready to vape is?

tokinGLX

haha, ok, another apology is owed on my part, i typed falsely once again. there is a tick mark in the dial, but it is hard to see unless youre looking at it under light. in the first pic above, you can see that the unit is set at high power.

as for what setting is ideal, well, that is user dependent. your best bet is to start with it at about half power, and play around with the heat settings for a couple bowls, increase it a bit, if you go in small increments you will taste when it is getting close to burning, turn it down a tick from there, and that is where i like to vape my bowls. nice full hits that do not leave you any desire to take a bong hit afterwards.