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Old 05-29-2008, 05:12 PM   #271
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First, Welcome to Da Buddha Club!

Second, try raising the temp gradually, from your 2 o'clock to all the way up to high adjusting as vapor lessons.

Yes on loosely packed and stir once vapor lessons, then adjust temperature a notch or so all repeating up to high. I have never burned anything besides being an idiot and laughing at something and blowing material on the heating element.

You will get better as you gain experience, think of it like learning to drive a clutch.

In addition, regarding how much to put in, I suggest the following:
1. Fill up full, about 1/2 an inch from the very tip of the wand, I mean full dang it. It will take awhile to finish that one.

2. Now fill the wand so that the quantity is in the middle from what your small bowl and large bowl.

3. Adjust and repeat until you find the level that suites you best.

Vape on!!

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Old 05-29-2008, 06:36 PM   #272
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I've managed to stick my screen exactly at the clear/frosted glass line. Since it's closer to the heater, I only need to put .1 or so, set it to 3pm, and I get 4-5 good hits.

I found when the screen was at the bottom of the hourglass, I'd have to put a bunch more product for the same amount of hits. I hope I can get my next screen positioned the same way.
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Old 05-29-2008, 08:45 PM   #273
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One thing I am wondering is how many hits I should be getting off a typical bowl? I know this varies from unit-to-unit and depends on the grade of the material, but I have seen some people post that they are getting something like 20 hits from one pack?? I'm getting somewhere in the neighborhood of 4-6 and now think I should be getting more. I pack mine about 1/4" full (below the frosted glass line), warmed it up for 2-3 minutes and then vaped at around the 2 o'clock position. Any tips from anyone out there? Am I not packing enough, should I adjust the heat, move it around in between each hit? Also, should this be very loosely packed? I want to make sure I am getting the most out of the herb! Any advice would be appreciated!
The best way to use the Da Buddha or SSV is to follow the suggestions 7th Floor provides, they suggest 1/8th to 1/4" of material in the bowl. (a little more is good if you prefer to add more)

The material should be loosely packed in, the fluffier it is, the better the heat will be able to strip the THC/cannibanoids off the material in the whip. (just the same as you would with any Vaporizer) My method is to grind the material, place a 1/4" into the wand, then lightly tap it in with a pen.

The amount of hits will vary, just like there's no correct answer to what position the dial should be in as it varies on many factors.
You see it depends on the draw, moisture content, how much material is in the wand and the temp.

For example, Joe might take a deeper draw than Phil, while Phil takes a longer slow draw and might get 5 or 6 hits per 1/4" of material in the wand, while Joe might get 2 or 3.

PS, I got a kick out of Trocisp's comments, I don't need a lot of space to rebutt some of these goofy comments, I'll summarize my reply. Why is it I always run into the board mavens when I visit new forums like this one:
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Yes, I've tried the Vaporwarez, dozens of times. I did mention I've owned a few, from the cheap fishbowl vapes to a Volcano(Got rid of the Volcano because my cat enjoyed trying to kill the Toppits bags), including a Vaporwarez (Given away to my best friend) and a SSV(stolen from my car).
First of all, the SSV and the Da Buddha warm up faster than the Vaparwarez, Matter of fact they warm up quicker than the Volcano and the Vaporwarez and most others although the Vaporwarez also has a fairly quick warm up. SSV and Da Buddha clearly list the warm up times in comparison. If the times were BS, we would know it.

The Vaporwarez is a great product, just that the Da Buddha is a better vape, not going to go into the semantics of 3 year vs 5 year warranty, for most, 3 years is adequate, in three years there probably will be better technology anyway, and not going to get into it about warm up times, because your flat mistaken and wrong in your observations about this.

The Da Buddha with its clever floating head, the unit itself also gets barely gets warm to the touch and is made of metal(Al), last time I checked, metals are usually more durable than wood, the Da Buddhas heating element is also as good as it gets.

As far as the guts? 7th Floor doesn't skimp on materials used, nor does Vaporwarez, that's why the Vaporqwarez is a good box type vape. Just the original just isn't the best anymore, the Da Buddha surpass the Vaporwarez as the best bang for the buck, also in terms of quality your buying, both are good vaporizors, just one is slightly better than the other.
As far as your comments on Packaging & Durability? I've received two parcels from 7th Floor, both were EXCEPTIONALLY packed, all pieces including the Da Buddha were wrapped in 1/4" closed cell bubble-wrap, then taped up, then placed in a protected box with cutouts for each component. Your argument about packaging is most likely UPS playing kickball with the poor guys package. Cmon be honest, how many Da Buddha's have really been physically placed in front of you for you to try. I bet a dollar and a donut, that would be one, and a defective unit to boot.

PS, I think the Vaporwarez is a great product, as I said, just in my opinion, the Da Buddha surpasses the Vaporwarez in all areas except the warranty. I'll be totally candid and mention, prior to getting my Da Buddha, I was convinced the Da Buddha would not be on par with the SSV that was stolen from me, but low and behold, I like the Da Buddha better than SSV. If I didn't have a cat hell bend on killing the Volcano toppit bags, I'd still be using a Volcano, although I have been playing with Toppit bags with my SSV and now with my Da Buddha.

When I have more time, I'll post some pics of the electric pipe I moddified so that I can use the Da Buddha with Toppit bags (You can do this trick with the Vaporwarez as well) Tried many methods, including a mini moddified keyboard vac, Whisper pump method and now with a $10 batery operated pipe hooked into the Da Buddhas want. (even tried da buddha>electric pipe> ROOR bong>Toppit Ballon) Still refing this technique in the event I have buddies over and they want a THC balloon

When I have buddies over and no balloon, I just fill the three wands I have and fill them all and theres no lag time between people, in fact they can each have their own whip and wand. When they leave, I bath them in alcohol to sterilize them all until the next time.
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Old 05-29-2008, 10:19 PM   #274
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dj45,

I've found using less is more. Never mind 1/8" or 1/4" - I usually only have to cover 1/2 to 3/4 of the screen. I made it a point to figure out just how little material I could get away with using in order to get where I want to be and stretch my supply as much as possible. I've found when I use less and set the temp in such a way that the vapor created isn't too thick I can hold the hit in longer. I've found holding in light-to-medium density hits for as long as you can to be just as effective, if not more so, than holding in a denser hit for less time.

What also helps smooth out the hits a lot so you can hold in thicker ones for longer is to use a waterpipe or bong. I know 7th Floor sells those ice and water attachments, but I've found the pieces that people already own usually work. I have a sherlock waterpipe that I use. I put DB's mouthpiece on the bowl of the waterpipe and just use the pipe like normal. I also use a red washer from a Grolsch beer bottle to help create a good seal. After several uses the water remains clear, but you can see all the little particulates that the water caught. On some bongs' downstem entrances the mouthpiece fits perfectly on its own. I still plan to get an attachment from 7th Floor in the future, so if any of you can comment on how well those work please let us know!
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Old 05-29-2008, 11:39 PM   #275
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dj45,

I've found using less is more. Never mind 1/8" or 1/4" - I usually only have to cover 1/2 to 3/4 of the screen. I made it a point to figure out just how little material I could get away with using in order to get where I want to be and stretch my supply as much as possible. I've found when I use less and set the temp in such a way that the vapor created isn't too thick I can hold the hit in longer. I've found holding in light-to-medium density hits for as long as you can to be just as effective, if not more so, than holding in a denser hit for less time.
That's good advise about partial covering the screen with herbage to maximize your herb, but drawing a hit with a screen totally covered usually always produces a better hit no matter the draw & no matter the vape your using.. I do that as well sometimes when I'm taking a break from growing and I ration, but when theres a gap, you get less vapor and more hot air passes through when there's a gap in the screen when your in ration mode.
In this mode a water chiller, ice chiller or a bong in-line is always good, hell any in-line cooling is always a good addition, partially covered screen or fully covered.

PS DJ, When 7th floor refers to 1/8-1/4", I believe they mean that's the measurment after the herb has been lightly packed.
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Old 06-01-2008, 02:03 AM   #276
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DB on order. Looking forward to joining the club. Do you have jackets?
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Old 06-01-2008, 02:33 AM   #277
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That's good advise about partial covering the screen with herbage to maximize your herb, but drawing a hit with a screen totally covered usually always produces a better hit no matter the draw & no matter the vape your using.. I do that as well sometimes when I'm taking a break from growing and I ration, but when theres a gap, you get less vapor and more hot air passes through when there's a gap in the screen when your in ration mode.
In this mode a water chiller, ice chiller or a bong in-line is always good, hell any in-line cooling is always a good addition, partially covered screen or fully covered.

PS DJ, When 7th floor refers to 1/8-1/4", I believe they mean that's the measurment after the herb has been lightly packed.
I guess I stand corrected. Last night I had a couple friends over and we came to the conclusion that my point is normally correct about covering the entire screen with vapes that have a close outside diameter size and Inside diameter size regarding the hole that the hot air flows through, but not in this scenario with the Da Dubbha's wand. You see the Da Buddha wand has a screen opening hole which is 17mm OD (outside dimension) and a 10mm ID (inside dimension) I checked two wands I got from Da Buddha & both had the same OD and ID.
(I'm a retired engineer and one of the guys that came over is an engineer as well, buddy #3 was a IT guy.
I guess when you get two engineers and a IT guy in the same room using a Da Buddha, eventually out come the micrometers and discussions on how to make it better

The good news is the Da Buddha is already pretty damn good as it is. My buddy did take some measurements of the top of the Da Buddha, as he's going to mill out a perforated aluminum cover for the Da Buddha's top with their water jet at the shop. It's really not needed as I'm making a marble tube or cylindrical like cover with small actuators, piston and small motor to both hide my Da Buddha in plain sight on my coffee table



So the moral of the story is that this 10mm ID hole makes it great for burning small amounts of matter without covering the entire screen. As long as the 10mm hole is covered, you'll get excellent hits. Maybe it's me, but it seemed like the SSV wand had a bigger ID hole, I have a SSV wand somewhere, later I'll measure than one too.The one SSV wand is the only part I still have before they stole it
I guess I'm just in thinking of larger hand free wands hole sizes with the 3/4"-1" screens, with those wands the ID and OD are close to being the same, so covering the entire screen with those is more important. The Da Buddha 10mm ID hole is a nice feature, your weed might go further when used like gauche uses his.
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Old 06-02-2008, 08:24 PM   #279
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I'm considering adding Da Buddha to my vaporizer collection (well my easy valve Volcano) after reading this thread. I have never used a whip vape and am very excited to see the difference. So besides an extra whip what else should I buy?
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Old 06-02-2008, 09:30 PM   #280
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Screens and I would get another length of tube, standard size or bigger depending on your style any custom glass if you like.
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