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Old 01-24-2008, 12:14 PM   #1
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I have a VaporWarez and its got me high alot of times. I have asthma and chose the vaporing route for this reason. My friends use it and mostly use it on high temperature to see the vapor or smoke that you get out of it after you exhale from the whip. Is this harmful? What setting is best for the VaporWarez? I usually use it midway or high but it irritates my throat. The next day, I still have chest tightness and wheezing when I breathe.

I am considering a bag unit. How is Herbal Aire? Its more expensive than the other alternative, which is Vapir One. I wish the Volcano would drop in price.

I might quit MJ on the whole because it looks like I get wrinkles from my forehead or eyes from vaping. I thought vaping wasn't supposed to cause these same effects as smoking.

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Old 01-24-2008, 02:43 PM   #2
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I have a VaporWarez and its got me high alot of times. I have asthma and chose the vaporing route for this reason. My friends use it and mostly use it on high temperature to see the vapor or smoke that you get out of it after you exhale from the whip. Is this harmful? What setting is best for the VaporWarez? I usually use it midway or high but it irritates my throat. The next day, I still have chest tightness and wheezing when I breathe.

I am considering a bag unit. How is Herbal Aire? Its more expensive than the other alternative, which is Vapir One. I wish the Volcano would drop in price.

I might quit MJ on the whole because it looks like I get wrinkles from my forehead or eyes from vaping. I thought vaping wasn't supposed to cause these same effects as smoking.

You will exhale visible vapor, but not always. I don't understand why you would think that is harmful.

I never set my Vapor Warez above 12 o'clock.

I don't have any experience with the Herbal Air, but I don't care for the Vapir One. I think the Vapor Warez is a better unit myself.

I have never had new wrinkles from vaping.....
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Old 01-24-2008, 03:33 PM   #3
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I don't know of any vape that wouldn't be too high/hot at the max setting. You can get smoke from some vapes if the temp is set too high. As Vicki said, 12 o'clock is all you need on the warez or most any box type vape. If you've been smoking weed, and turn to vaping, I can't imagine having increased respiratory problems. My lungs are much happier now that I'm inhaling vapor instead of smoke. Throat dryness is more or less normal (more, if you're hitting the whip pretty hard, which results in even more dryness hitting your throat), but should be a temporary condition remedied by drinking some water.

I've been using the herbalAire for going on two years and love it. It will solve any high temp problems, since you just set the dial on the desired temp (about 370F) and turn on the pump. Sucking vapor from a bag may be no easier on your throat, but again, that should just be a little temporary dryness.
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Old 01-24-2008, 05:24 PM   #4
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how many inhales do you take from the whip? also how do you recommend cleaning the whip? theres alot of crap inside near the filter

I want to get a herbal aire but when its at a good price
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how many inhales do you take from the whip?
I hit it until I don't see any vapor and then hit three more times. How many depends on the kind of weed, how much you put in the whip, the temperature setting, and how hard you hit.

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I use 91% isopropyl alcohol. The stuff that condenses on the inside of the whip is mostly pure, distilled cannabis resin. If you pour the "dirty" alcohol into a flat-bottom pan and let it evaporate, it leaves something very much like hash oil behind.

What filter? VaporWarez machines don't have a filter.

If I set the temp on my machine much past 1'o'clock, the weed will start to burn.
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Old 01-24-2008, 08:17 PM   #6
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That's 'good crap'. There may some small mj particles there, but most of it is vapor residue. You can clean it and dump it, or you can harvest it, and then vape it, smoke it, whatever. It's just vapor that's condensed on the glass. If you don't clean it, it'll be easier for more to condense there, and your future sessions will be less efficient.
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I have the Vapir One and love it. If you do get it, make sure you modify it by taping up EVERYTHING but the hot-air escape vent.
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I highly recommend the HerbalAire - I just got one a few weeks back and it makes a truly sick bag and direct-draw vape. The bags are great when people are around, especially if you get a faster pump, which is a must for parties. I just tried it today for the first time just pulling straight from the unit (no bags, no pump) and I found it far better than my VaporBros ever was. The vapor was super thick and because of the unit's temperature control I found it didn't matter much how quickly I drew. It takes a lot less skill.

Considering an HA is half the price of a Volcano, it has my highest recommendation. It's a bit more of a pain to work with, considering the mouthpieces get hot and the loading isn't as graceful as a Volcano, but I'm definitely willing to sacrifice a little grace for half price. On top of that, reports show it's more efficient than the Volcano. It's certainly more efficient than the VaporBros, at least in my experience. The ABV bud is much darker brown.
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The wrinkles are likely caused by "sucking" Thats what causes wrinkles in cigarette smokers, anyway. personallky, I vape a lot, but nowhere near the point where I'd believe it was causing wrinkles. Smokers get wrinkles, but thats becasue they are usually sucking on a cigarette a LOT. Most people who vape do so far less than the average tobacco smoker smokes.

I'd never vape exclusively on high with a vaporwarez. Thats enough to cause combustion and cause you to inhale smoke from tyhe vape.....something, that if it ever happens to you, you'll learn to avoid like the plague. The smoke produced is hot, nasty, and tastes like utter shit. I usually vape between 12 and 1 personally, maybe turning it slightly higher to milk that last few hits out of the load. Theres no reason to ever turn it up "all the way" though
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The wrinkles are likely caused by "sucking" Thats what causes wrinkles in cigarette smokers, anyway.
Not just that. Blood supply is also affected.

"Smoking can accelerate the normal aging process of your skin, contributing to wrinkles. These skin changes may occur after only 10 years of smoking and are irreversible.

How does smoking lead to wrinkles? Smoking causes narrowing of the blood vessels in the outermost layers of your skin. This impairs blood flow to your skin, depleting it of oxygen and important nutrients, such as vitamin A. Smoking also damages collagen and elastin — fibers that give your skin its strength and elasticity. As a result, skin begins to sag and wrinkle prematurely.

Smoking doesn't only cause wrinkles on your face. A 2007 study found that smoking is associated with increased wrinkling and skin damage on other parts of the body, including the inner arms.

In addition, repeated exposure to the heat from burning cigarettes and the facial expressions you make when smoking — such as pursing your lips when inhaling and squinting your eyes to keep out smoke — may contribute to wrinkles."

mayoclinic.com/health/smoking/AN00644
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