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| I was thinking about how you have to fuss around with stirring the contents of the whip between hits if you want to keep getting strong hits. This is because the weed is packed down and air flows past parts of it and not others. Stirring assures that all parts of the weed will eventually get exposed to the hot air. What if you could build a vape that kept the weed particles suspended in a stream of hot air? It would need three parts: 1. A basic box vape with a vertical heater and male gg fitting. 2. A glass tube with a female gg fitting, a screen, and a male gg fitting, two inches long. 3. A whip with a female gg fitting and a screen on the end. Weed goes into #2 on top of the screen. #2 fits on top of #1. #3 fits on top of #2 and toking commences. As the hot air is sucked up through #2, the weed particles are lifted and suspended in the air stream and bounce around the chamber between the two screens. All of their surfaces are exposed to hot air. Usually, when I have a great idea it turns out not to be so great on further reflection. The other thing that happens is that it's a really great idea but someone else has already had it. If anyone thinks of a reason my concept won't work, please let me know. If someone is already making a vape that works like this, what's it called?
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| It's a good idea. I think someone here has a whip that has a middle chamber, but not big enough for the pieces to be suspended in the air stream. Maybe you should get a patent for your idea. ![]()
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| This is pretty much the design of the V-Tower/Extreme. The bowl has female ground glass connections on both ends and fits down on the heater tube/cover. An L-shaped glass connector has a male gg connection that fits onto the bowl. The bowl has a screen that fits nice and flat and the upper screen fits into the connector with the edges of the screen wrapped around the outside of the connector. The overlapping screen on the connector works fine, but gets no high marks for design/fit and finish. It just tends to snag on any kind of fabric material it comes into contact with and be worrisome-not a big issue, just generally irritating IMO. As for the suspension of particles, the "cyclone bowl" keeps the herb stirred up if you're hitting it hard enough, depending on the condition of herb. It'll obviously do a better job if the herb is somewhat dry and finely ground. The problem with this system for me is that you have to hit it hard to get the particles to move, let alone stay in suspension. The large airways on this vape allow too much air flow for my taste, even with nice easy hits. I like rich vapor hits, and when you hit it hard enough to stir up the bowl contents, that just increases air flow, and makes for thinner vapor hits. The way I've ended up using it is to just occasionally puff hard on the whip to stir up the contents, then return to slow and easy hits, with the contents just sitting on the bottom of the bowl, maybe quivering a little in the more gentle air flow I prefer. The nice thing about this system is that you can see exactly how your breaths are affecting the herb, since the bowl is clear glass, standing straight up. Since I haven't used this vape in the new, modified form of the Extreme, I don't know how the 3 speed fan treats the herb. We'll have to hear from an Extreme owner on that. But my comments apply to the unit when used as a whip vape without help from the fan, and I don't like forced air on a whip vape, so the fan would be a non-factor for me. I've found this vape (as the V-Tower) to be pretty convenient to use, with the whip able to swivel easily around in a circle for multiple users or just keep up with arm movement when used by a single user without worrying about knocking the base off balance. But keeping the herb in constant suspension with every hit just doesn't work for me and I think it's mostly sales hype unless you hit it like it's a bong. I just get too much air with my hits and it dries my throat out very quickly. An occasional hard puff does do a good stir job though.
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| Hmm, sorry wise one, but I'm going to have to veto your idea. If the bowl is packed with lots of herb, then the air needed to keep it suspended would be too much. If you pack the bowl very loosely, then I don't think having the herb suspended in mid-air will really improve the hit that much more than having it rest on the screen. I could definitely see the appeal of the idea though when in the right state of mind though ![]() |
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I believe the intent is to avoid having to stir up the contents, not to improve the quality of the hits. Although keeping the contents in suspension with normal draws is not practical, an occasional hard puff on the V-Tower/Extreme works very well to mix up the contents and avoid having to stop and stir. So in that respect it's a good idea and works very well in practice. | |
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| Something like this? The VaporTower Handkit is a new design from the Original Deluxe Hands-Free Handkit for the VaporBox.. It is backwards compatible with the VaporBox, VaporCannon, VaporDoc and possibly other brands (excluding VaporBrothers). It has a Dual Screen system, having a screen fixed in place on both open ends when taken apart. This secures the material between the two screens when handpiece is closed, and allows the hot air to flow through more surface area of the material, consistently.
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