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tyken

I just purchased the Extreme Vaporizer last Tuesday from Home | Arizer and I will be picking it up later today from the post office. I have been reading up on the vaporizer the past few days so I know all of the specifics before I get it. After reading about it on a few forums I have seen at least 6 posts on various forums by the same person "automatic" with one post count and join dates of February 2008. Each post is almost exactly the same and emphasizes how great the product is. Here is a sample post:

"The Extreme vaporizer on eBay....wow....I also own the volcano. This is one great vape. I like it as much or more than my Volcano. Very stealth, portable, bags or whip, digital, all in one amazing! ....better get one before these go commercial."

If you want to see all of the posts go to Google and search for "automatic extreme vaporizer" You will find 6+ posts by automatic talking about how great the vaporizer is and that it is better than his Volcano. This seems like blatant advertising by the producer of the vaporizer. I will be sending an email to Arizer concerning this advertising technique and I hope some more of you will do the same. I have read that it is a great product and I am sure I will enjoy it, but the shady advertising should not be tolerated.

Shipping time was pretty fast from Canada to the States, I paid the extra $15 for express shipping and it only took 4 days. I wasn't home on Saturday to receive the package so it is waiting patiently at the post office for me to pick it up once the post office opens.

I will be vaporizing Spice Gold and Chillin XXX due to legal complications restricting me from using another well known plant. I'll let everyone know how it goes later today and I'll be sure to post up a full review.

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Trocisp

Tyken, after you get your vaporizer, please post and tell us how it is. It looks very interesting.

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5drive

Sometimes it's hard to tell forum spam/fake posts from the real thing posted by a happy new owner, but a single post, worded the same, on multiple forums is pretty suspicious. This type of thing doesn't bother me as much as negative advertising, where a vape maker has to hype his product by trashing other models.

The guy who makes and sells the Extreme employs this negative advertising to an 'extreme', and combines it with 'scare tactics' advertising. He's toned down his ebay ads a bit, going from saying that 'most' vapes are dangerous toxin emitting devices to 'many'. You can also find the scare tactics on his website, where he says vapes not using glass have "construction or parts which can give off harmful toxins, bad taste and a poor experience." That may be true for some of the cheap 'made in China' boxes, but many? Just scare tactics IMO. His descriptions of so-called dangerous materials would lead many to believe that even the Volcano is unsafe to use.

A quality vaporizer should sell on its merits, and not rely on customers buying it because the maker says it's the only safe vape on the market. Since I've used the Extreme in its manual mode (V-Tower), I can say that IMO it's the best dual mode vape you can buy. Too bad the guy's advertising doesn't measure up to the quality of his product.

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djelimon

So I tried this puppy out last night.

I have some gripes:

The thermostat measures the temp at the heat source, not where the weed is 6 inches higher. As a result you have to set the temp at about 670 Farenheit to get a vape on. Now, this does work, and it is vapor, not smoke, BUT for me the whole point of a digital thermostat is to know for sure what temp you're vaping the material at. This is more faith-based. My other complaint is the juncture of the bag to the heat source. It can be awkward to detach the bag unless you remember to slip the tube from the heater to the coupler around the bag to a very shallow level, like maybe 2-3 millimeters, and there is not a easy/simple way to seal off the bag. So you waste a little vapor each time.

That said the thing does work, the hits are smooth. The three fan speeds I was reluctant to mess with, since I was using a heuristic (rule of thumb) in setting the temperature. All vaping material went brown, not black. Easier on the throat than the V-Tower I already own, probably because I used the bag.

In sum, I will probably wait until the next generation before I buy.

Kusher

i read every were on the internet before we bought another vaporizer I am a heavy smoker and have to do something. i have my extreme now and think it works pretty good so far, i never owned the vtower but i tried it and i'm glad i waited for the extreme. i use the bags most of the time i haven't had trouble detaching bags. its pretty simple just bend it and it pops right off you might loose .01% of the vapor. i'm a blunt smoker and used to see a lot of my money go up in smoke i like the efficiency about vaporizing.

the whip is okay too i hold it in my mouth with my teeth as i type here on the keyboard and take hit after hit you can get pretty loaded that way.

before i bought another vapourizer i searched and read a lot the extreme interested me the most. i had bad luck so far with vaporizing and their shady advertising might be right I add up all themoney from the ones I have bought that we don’t use, between me and the friends we have we all mailed ordered a lot of vapes. we didn't by the volcano because of what i read about the aluminum block heater and the metal bowl and the price to. the other vapes we have around don't get used, some are plastic and wood and cheap I think eitherway this one seems much better made than what is out there and better made than the vtower to

we will see so far i am happy with my extreme. we are using this one a lot and i don't mind the not smoking so much i like it more than the other vaporizers we have tried. they all seem expensive to me this one seems most worth the money it works good no complaints the remote and everything is right on but what I like most is I can change it up and do whip or bag

 

nebulator

Please let us know what Steve(the owner) reply about your question..I think he has more things to do than post in all forums the same post...anyway enjoy the extreme and relax!

P.S. do you think that people posting about his favorite vape (like tokin glx does with his ssv) is blatant advertising??

5drive

I feel the same way. The guy designed it this way to make it easier on the temp controller, as in 'longer lasting/more reliable'. The worst part of this (at least the last I heard) is that there's no explanation of this in the instructions. The result-you know your vaping temps and think there's something wrong with your new vape, or you're ignorant about vaping temps and become totally misinformed about true vaporizing temps.

What are all these vapes you've used that you're so unhappy with. I've used at least a dozen different models and every one has been satisfactory in producing vapor. Some are easier to use than others, but with the proper technique they all worked fine. Producing vapor is a simple matter of applying the proper temp range. With a bag unit it's hard to go wrong. The vape controls the temp and airflow and you can't really screw it up. With a whip vape the user controls the airflow, and airflow affects the temp. Being dissatisfied with multiple vapes is unusual, and if they all depend on the user for airflow I suspect that the air is being drawn too fast and dropping the temp too much. If you're happy with the Extreme in whip mode, but not happy with other whip vapes, I find that very peculiar. Or are you just using it with bags?

The price I can understand, but you really are a victim of scare tactic advertising if you think aluminum block heaters and metal bowls are dangerous.

Vapes with plastic housings like the Vapir One and Mini don't expose the plastic to vaping temps. The housing on butane lighters is most often plastic. Is that a problem? Don't think so. Same thing for wood on vape housings. It's a convenient, inexpensive (cheap if you like) way to house the guts of a vape. It doesn't affect safety or performance.

Much better made than what is out there? That's pretty vague. So you've used all the vapes on the market and the Extreme is the best constructed of them all? Although I have no problem with the construction of the Extreme, I've heard quite a few comments that it seems flimsy and cheaply constructed. Opinions do vary, it seems. As for being better made than the V-Tower, the guy took his V-Tower, added an electronic controller and a fan, and it became the Extreme. Exact same base unit. Is a Mustang GT better made than a base Mustang? Nope. It's just got some extra stuff added to make it faster and more sporty.

5drive

You wouldn't be the new distributor for the Extreme in Italy by any chance would you neb?

Kusher

i only put up my experience there 5driver you are excited it looks like. why do you question what i prefer. i like this extreme this time i looked around more and bought it and it is the best i used so far

i read somewhere about the aluminum heater in the volcano and that does not appeal to me. I also read somewhere about the metal bowls can make it harsher i agree with that just like a metal pipe is more harsh than a glass one.

no the vtower i used was not the same at all the bottom base was different the dial was under it and i would say the only same thing looks like the silver housing like i said i am glad i waited for it.

yes i like the bags most. you said its hard to believe i tried so many and don't like them i think you said peculiar . if you asked me did most of the vapourizers i used make vapor the answer would be yes but that does not mean i liked them or would by them. i can't agree about the plastic and metal we do not like metal bowls and i read all over on forums about plastic and taste i don't like it either.

what do i compare it too well i have so far used the herbal-air, another in a wooden casing with whip, the Vapir model sold in all the stores, the volcano, silver surfer and some others

these things cost a lot of money. look at all the things a dvd player can do and only cost $99 or less. i said a lot of them were not worth my money and i don't like them. sounds like you like your extreme okay 5drive but you don't like their scare/tactic/negative advertising relax it a little maybe when you read around the user forums it might be reasonable i wish i didn't by all the vapes i already have. people ar smart to read around before they buy some of those arizer scares are facts not negative

i like most to see my herbs and get at them to stir them up easily i believe what i read about exposing surface area and stirring. when i stir my bowl i get a lot more vapor the next tiem with my herbalair the weed is all inside and it plugs

the best way to spend your money is to try it first and if not then read as much as you can from what users say about it good

djelimon

Just a (v-tower-powered) comment here:

I find it funny that on a forum where everyone is just trying to figure out how to get high safely and efficiently I see the same sort of politics developing that I see in MMA forums, or video forums. Just human nature I guess. Where there's money, there's politics.

Negative campaigning? The vendors all do it to some extent. You should employ critical thinking when taking advice on the internet, and when dealing with strangers in general. Have the Nancy Reagan years taught us nothing?

I think the Arizer crew could probably do just fine pushing quality vapes and support (they have great support).

I think the video clips are hilarious. The guy is obviously baked, and he starts rambling after the 3rd or 4th hit. Like when he says the Extreme is the best looking vaporizer. I mean, that's pretty subjective. But it's funny, because you know he's stoned. He's fantasizing about his vaporizer in front of me.

But you know, you have to admire that kind of dedication. Remember, this isn't some company with a slick PR firm or an advertising team.

So I cut him some slack.

Comparisons:

As good as the Digital Volcano? Nope, can't see it. DV with the new attachment is way easier to deal with, and of course I HATE LOSING VAPOR. With my regular V-Tower I lose none, and the digital readout might as well be a dial, because you have to guess at the settings anyway. I like the remote control though, and the battery pack is interesting, as is the shatter resistant bowl (which I forgot to try out). DV has easy and lossless bag system, a drunk could work it (trust me).

Better than Herbal Aire?

Herbal Aire bag is easier to pinch but harder to detach. The vertical placement of the bag makes it a lot easier to deal with than Extreme horizantal attachment. Extreme comes with a bigger bag and that remote thingy. Herbal Aire has a dial that corresponds to vape temp directly. There's that pump thing. As a bag vape Herby is better. But the Extreme is a better whip.

I have a v-tower and I think it's the best whip I've seen thus far. So good that a bag is optional to me. If they could get the Extreme temperature thing worked out, and a better bag attachment system, with maybe a vertical attachment (that's just a matter of glass bending), I'd consider upgrading to it. As it is though, I'm still happy with my v-tower.