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Conky

beezleb,
I can't tell exactly but I think you were standing up for what I said about the DB and SSV. Very similar in vapor quality, and the same ease of use, changing screens, reliability, etc...
That's all I was trying to say, and the price thing was not meant to be exact, anyone can check the prices for themself.
I was more just trying to review the product since I have had the ability to try two of them. 5drive, I don't mean to come off as being a loud noob, cause I am on many forums and I don't have issues there, I just think you need to relax a bit because you are nip-picking things like crazy, like a perfectionist.
I will try and keep my facts, and points a little more clean and precise.

 

shadybeep

Like the OP, I decided to purchase a Da Buddah vaporiser a few weeks ago. Initially I didnt realise the paypal echeck thing takes a week to clear, but even once cleared, its been 2 weeks without any news at all (no shipping, no 'we recieved your cash' nothing, I have emailed them several times, and they havent replied at all.

Their customer service just seems hugely slow and lax compared to some other companies I have used, especially in their not replying AT ALL.
Id be somewhat worried about losing the cash, although from other posts on this board I will give them the benefit of the doubt and assume they are just slow and not a bunch of thieves :P (note: I am in england, so I havent called them up at all, although if this goes on I will have to)

Anyhow, not really relevent if you have made your mind up, but given the small differences there seem to be between the db and some other vapes, those in a hurry to get one, or planning on shipping internationally where some email feedback would be useful might want to bear this in mind.

5drive

OK, here's my response to your post again: "If you mean the DB is exactly the same vape with only different looks, that's not entirely accurate." If you want to call me a perfectionist when it comes to accurate info I don't have any problem with that. And I stated clearly that with your ambiguous statement about "same effect", it would be misinterpreted by some. Your price statement was way off. If you think objecting to that is nitpicking, I disagree, since it's not an insignificant detail. You just said "anyone can check the prices for themself." Then maybe you should have before you posted. I don't know why you're surprised that someone objected to incorrect pricing info being posted as fact. As for relaxing, I could be dozing off and I'd still disagree with inaccurate facts.

Thank you. That was the whole point of my response to your post. Like I said, a lot of people read your posts here.

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beezleb878

I would call them and speak to somebody. Without anything coming back to you I would at the very least verify if the money cleared echeck but I have no experience with that. Just a thought and thanks for stating our issue. This is not the first time ive seen issues with people ordering from Europe. Hopefully its just a communication issue and your vape is happily on its way.

5drive

You're not the only one getting no response to emails. I've heard it and experienced it myself in trying to get some custom glass. It's kind of hard to describe what you want over the phone. Really frustrating when you send an email with pics of what you want and then get no response. You don't have to worry about getting ripped off. 7th Floor strives to give good customer svc.. Their intentions are good, but the cust. svc. via email needs a lot of work.

 

under the sea

Hey, another spin off question here for the owners/users of DB. I mentioned it before but idk if anyone saw my post. THe whole reason im getting a vap is because iv been having some lung issues due to smoking and want to be healthy and smoke free, so what temp should i use it at to GARUNTEE that i dont burn any of the plant or get any toxins n stuff. I want to just get some pure vapor even if it takes a little longer. any one no a good temp, so i can know what to do when it arrives?

Conky

Just do a little research on the forum that's how I learned.
Also check out tokinGLX videos on the SSV, that's why I got it haha.

Just set the dial to 12 o'clock (straight up and down). I usually set it at 12:30-1 and I never adjust it. The only thing I adjust is my draw speed. Too fast you get nothing, too slow at 12-1 and you won't really have problems with it igniting, but you can draw too slow. If you go to 3-later then you will ignite it easy if you don't watch your speed. Just make sure you follow the instructions and let it burn off all the oils before you vape the first time.


As far as customer service, I have had nothing but great experiences both times I've bought from them. The second time they were a little slower on the responses, but I suspect they are just getting a lot of email traffic, which makes it hard to respond to everything. If you are in dire need call them.

beezleb878

Start off at mid temperature and slowly work your way up until you find the temperature that best suites you.

Its a volume type of dial and not really a precise setting and is said to vary from vape to vape.

5drive

I choose to challenge incorrect posts regarding facts. It's as simple as that.

Yep. That's my opinion, based on your posts. You act like I called you a nasty name. It's just an opinion expressed by somebody you don't know on a message board. It's not tattooed on your forehead.

Not until two sentences later anyway.

I might say the same of you. [quote/]and when and if that happens those who see that will tend to view your opinions differently than you may mean.[/quote]My reputation is none of my business.


Such as? I can't seem to get a lot of specifics from you, and I have asked. As to your comment about eluding, etc., that implies deceit IMO, and even if you don't agree, your statement itself is far worse than calling someone defensive. And FYI, I find the idea of eluding or indicating other meaning on a forum totally foreign to me.

You mean the review that consisted of two statements-one ambiguous and one false? I certainly did jump on his price statement and it was well deserved. Let me repost that so that you can point out to me exactly how I'm eluding and phrasing in a manner to indicate other meaning.

"Originally Posted by Conky
....so I found out about DB and he got it. We used that thing it's exact same effect as the SSV just look different, and half the price.

Exact same effect yep, but a $50 VaporGenie or a homemade lightbulb vape, used properly, also gives the "exact same effect". If you mean the DB is exactly the same vape with only different looks, that's not entirely accurate. There are slight differences, which have been discussed previously, the most obvious being hands free for the DB, while that's an option (two different ways) on the SSV. As for the DB being half the price, that's so far from being accurate I can't believe you typed it. Even without the 10% discount that's available on the SSV, the price difference is only $82 with shipping. With the SSV discount, the price difference is $57."

It's flawed thinking to argue with untrue information on pricing? I'd have to disagree. Facts are facts.

I certainly do take issue with statements when they're untrue. If it's an opinion I disagree with, well, opinions differ. I don't take issue with people, just what's posted.

So aren't these more comments about my character, at least in your opinion? Hmmmm. I think I'd rather be called defensive. And I'm going to personally destroy the community here? I think it's much more likely that this site will still be going and growing long after I'm gone. And it's not that I want to be right every time. I'm not. I've been wrong on this forum before and admitted it. There's way too much bad info out there about vapor and vaporizers and when I see it, I object and I back it up with all the correct info I can round up.

Sorry. I'm not clear on what you mean by vapor quality. Do you mean one has a better quality of vapor? We do seem to have a problem getting each other's meaning.

Air-OK, finally a specific. As I've said, a larger airway-more air. It's a difference. Why do you think I've said different = better. I can show you where I said many people could prefer the DB, specifically for the larger airway. It even has convenience advantages. As for "whatnot", I can't respond to that.

Again, you make it clear you think hands free is better. Hands free ground glass connection on the SSV is a loose connection waiting to happen IMO, due to the angle. tokin feels the same. Although it's not an issue with the DB (better angle), I still don't like hands free. But your opinion is that the SSV can only be compared to the DB pricewise if you add the $45 GG kit. You've also said you'd have bought the SSV, price being equal. If they raised the bar with the DB, as you say, and you love hands free, why would you even consider the SSV? And please feel free to not answer. I asked for specifics in my last post and you haven't given me much to work with other than your own formula for comparing price.You're taking things way too personally, and reading things into what I say that aren't there. I have no interest in continuing this discussion. Ongoing unpleasantness is not my idea of fun, but I can assure you that I will keep right on questioning vague and nebulous info when I see it and correct bad info every time I can back it up.

beezleb878

I stand by my words no matter how you may wish to try to micro analyze everything down to its most technical to make it appear as something different. I think you are mainly the only one who truly cares when you jump on someone because you take issue with some adjective that someone used in their review.

It is in sort of a way bullying the community through being potentially intimidating through being overly critical and heavy handed. That act will likely limit others from interacting and being part of the vaping community.

I look forward to your input on vaping but im done with this. I said what I had to say, I heard you and I stand by my words. I have nothing else to say to you as I have stated my reasoning and it has merit for which on many instances you discussed what you surmised I was saying instead of speaking to the reasoning.

I appreciate those who have experience with this kind of thing but that does not make you absolutely correct in your views. When dealing with aspects where subjectivity comes into factor being overly critical is simply flawed from an educated decision making process so to speak.

When establishing value you identify the value of all the aspects of that item. As I have already explained in my reasoning for why it is appropriate to list the price of the gg upgrade to the SSV when comparing it in price value to the DB because the DB has that option. That fact directly makes it correct that the SSV price be adjusted to reflect the GG upgrade and/or it be explained that the SSV is not hands free without an upgrade at an additional cost.

To not state that it could be directly misleading by not explaining that which is why I do and to point out you remark that the angle of glass is insufficient for GG over time which would be a valid remark if shown to be an issue and at the very least should be stated but you come off as you are basing your actions on your personal views to the issue which is fine but to allow those personal views to hold sway as to act in a manner that potentially directs others through either intentional or unintentional mannerisms is likely not achieving nor being seen as they believe.

Im done with this but it seems odd that someone so heavy handed to jump on someone for not being technical is so quick to not be properly technical, specifically regarding the price points. Its basic economics and business 101 regarding this type of comparison. I do not say to price it like that for any other reason and it stood out as funny and odd to me. I do not mean any disrespect, I did explain my reasons and that is not an intended unpleasantness, at least not any more or less as what I see you doing to others. I just call it as it see it.

Respect.