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Old 06-04-2008, 07:10 AM   #21
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While I admit I have sucked on a bag while driving a few times, I don't recommend even being under the influence while driving, especially these days when so many people are driving while trying to hold a cell to their ear and carry on a conversation. My car use is almost strictly while I'm a passenger or parked. While driving under the influence of mj isn't in the same league with driving drunk, a blood test will still get you a DUI.
Not true at all... There is no law that says you can't be high in public, you just cant smoke in public. If you have nothing on you, you're gravy.

Say you get pulled over and somehow they get you to take a blood test. Drug testing isn't like carbon dating, you can't find the date of use its just positive or negative. You could argue you smoked 28 days ago...

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Old 06-04-2008, 07:21 AM   #22
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First off, let me just say that I used to be very against the idea of "driving while high"... but that was before I started smoking when I thought "high" was a very different thing. Since I never smoke myself silly, I find driving to not be a problem. If anything, I drive much much safer and aware lol.

In fact the only "study" i can think of was on a british motor show where they found the same results... people drove much more safe while high than sober.

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Not true at all... There is no law that says you can't be high in public, you just cant smoke in public. If you have nothing on you, you're gravy.

Say you get pulled over and somehow they get you to take a blood test. Drug testing isn't like carbon dating, you can't find the date of use its just positive or negative. You could argue you smoked 28 days ago...
First things first... there is indeed a law... and its called "public intoxication"... so if you are not noticeably high, then whatever... its a moot point... but if you are high enough to warrant an officer's attention, then you are high enough to possibly be charged with public intoxication.

As for driving... same point... if you are high enough to warrant them doing a blood test on you, then you're probably up shit-creek without a paddle... however if it is just some random blood test, then yeah it could be argued that you weren't high at the time... but then again, if you have to argue that at all, you are probably going to court, and that's just not fun.
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Old 06-04-2008, 05:31 PM   #23
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First off, let me just say that I used to be very against the idea of "driving while high"... but that was before I started smoking when I thought "high" was a very different thing. Since I never smoke myself silly, I find driving to not be a problem. If anything, I drive much much safer and aware lol.

In fact the only "study" i can think of was on a british motor show where they found the same results... people drove much more safe while high than sober.



First things first... there is indeed a law... and its called "public intoxication"... so if you are not noticeably high, then whatever... its a moot point... but if you are high enough to warrant an officer's attention, then you are high enough to possibly be charged with public intoxication.

As for driving... same point... if you are high enough to warrant them doing a blood test on you, then you're probably up shit-creek without a paddle... however if it is just some random blood test, then yeah it could be argued that you weren't high at the time... but then again, if you have to argue that at all, you are probably going to court, and that's just not fun.
Again incorrect. Public intoxication deals with alcohol as they have a test to see if you are currently drunk (breathalizer). You can be as high as you've ever been, walking right by the police station. They can stop you for something else however they cannot stop and question you just because they think you are high as there is no test to see if you are currently high. Like I said before, a blood test will tell you if you smoked in the last 30 days or so. A real life example: My girlfriend never really smokes but one time she and her friends decided to smoke a J outside of the dorm building. Of course they aren't paying attention around them and as my girlfriend takes a hit a cop walks up behind her. At this point the J was almost completely done and she threw it on the ground. Now the cop scared them to admitting they smoked and he wrote them tickets for public intox. However, this was not due to the smoking. They had also admitted to drinking and the public intox was due to that. She ends up paying a hefty fine and then a few months later gets all her money back because the cop didn't even take a breathilizer so he had no proof of them drinking. There is nothing they can do about smoking unless they have evidence (which he could have got if he would have bagged up the roach).
So I'll reiterate my point: You cannot be pulled over, questioned, or arrested just because a cop suspects you are high.
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Fryguy22, you're giving horrible legal advice.

You might be correct in your state or jurisdiction, however you're not putting that in context, and you are incorrect in general. In many states you can be given a DUI ticket (and Public Intoxication, in some states) for having THC in your system.
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Old 06-05-2008, 04:21 AM   #26
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Fryguy22, you're giving horrible legal advice.

You might be correct in your state or jurisdiction, however you're not putting that in context, and you are incorrect in general. In many states you can be given a DUI ticket (and Public Intoxication, in some states) for having THC in your system.
I'm not trying to give legal advice. I'm in PA and I don't know every states laws I am simply stating that if you are high in public, have nothing on you, and are not breaking any other laws, you cannot be apprehended.
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I dont have a volcano, but as i mentioned in previous posts I REALLY like my herbalaire, which i use soley for bag filling. So to add to the discussion:

I think the volcano bags from what i have seen are much too large. I have no idea how fast it fills those giant things, but damn, I just have two bags which i regularly replace, regular oven bag sized, and alternate them, which makes the wait far far less, as you can fill one whilst using the other.

Apart from that, for caning large amounts at once, the da buddha wipes out the other vapes I own, but I dont really find myself filling it to that extent very much. It definately gives the most fulfilling tokes, full and tasty, but at the same time the herbalaires consistency means I can often vape used herbs from the dabuddah and get more out.

The one thing I would say though is, I got the herbalaire first, and wouldnt give it up for any of the others. Course, comparisons of this sort arent too useful, because it comes down to personal preference, but its good to remember your personal preference may not match that of the original poster
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I think the volcano bags from what i have seen are much too large. I have no idea how fast it fills those giant things, but damn, I just have two bags which i regularly replace, regular oven bag sized, and alternate them, which makes the wait far far less, as you can fill one whilst using the other.
The standard 'cano bag is a little large for my taste, and some people like 'em even bigger for multiple users. With the solid valve you can make whatever size you want, but the herbalAire's system allows for easier and cheaper multiple bags, so you can use large, medium, or small, depending on your situation.
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I'm not trying to give legal advice. I'm in PA and I don't know every states laws I am simply stating that if you are high in public, have nothing on you, and are not breaking any other laws, you cannot be apprehended.
Yes you can.

Read up on any state-specific laws. Most do not define public intoxication as a alcohol only, and depending on the state


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* Georgia: In Georgia, public intoxication is a class B misdemeanor. Public intoxication is defined as a person who shall be and appear in an intoxicated condition in any public place or within the curtilage of any private residence not his own other than by invitation of the owner or lawful occupant, which condition is made manifest by boisterousness, by indecent condition or act, or by vulgar, profane, loud, or unbecoming language.[1]
* Indiana: In Indiana, public intoxication is a class B misdemeanor, punishable with up to 60 days in jail, and a 500 dollar fine. The assessment of public intoxication is at the discretion of the arresting officer, who has the option, in addition to the citation, of detaining the individual in jail, or transporting the individual to his or her home or to the home of a responsible caretaker. (See IC 7.1-5-1-3, 12-23-15).
* Iowa: the Code of Iowa states that "a person shall not be intoxicated or simulate intoxication in a public place". However this would not normally invite arrest unless the person had caused a nuisance or posed a danger to themselves or others.
* Missouri has no state public intoxication law. Missouri's permissive alcohol laws both protect people from suffering any criminal penalty (including arrest) for the mere act of being drunk in public, and prohibit local jurisdictions from enacting criminal public intoxication laws on their own.
* Montana state law states that public intoxication is not a crime. However, the law allows law enforcement to take an intoxicated person home, or to detain them, if they are a danger to themselves or others. The law also states that no record can be made that indicates the person was arrested or detained for being intoxicated.[4]
* Nevada has no state public intoxication law. Nevada state law both protects people from suffering any criminal penalty (including arrest) for the mere act of being drunk in public, and prohibits local jurisdictions from enacting criminal public intoxication laws on their own.
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Yes you can.

Read up on any state-specific laws. Most do not define public intoxication as a alcohol only, and depending on the state


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* Georgia: In Georgia, public intoxication is a class B misdemeanor. Public intoxication is defined as a person who shall be and appear in an intoxicated condition in any public place or within the curtilage of any private residence not his own other than by invitation of the owner or lawful occupant, which condition is made manifest by boisterousness, by indecent condition or act, or by vulgar, profane, loud, or unbecoming language.[1]
* Indiana: In Indiana, public intoxication is a class B misdemeanor, punishable with up to 60 days in jail, and a 500 dollar fine. The assessment of public intoxication is at the discretion of the arresting officer, who has the option, in addition to the citation, of detaining the individual in jail, or transporting the individual to his or her home or to the home of a responsible caretaker. (See IC 7.1-5-1-3, 12-23-15).
* Iowa: the Code of Iowa states that "a person shall not be intoxicated or simulate intoxication in a public place". However this would not normally invite arrest unless the person had caused a nuisance or posed a danger to themselves or others.
* Missouri has no state public intoxication law. Missouri's permissive alcohol laws both protect people from suffering any criminal penalty (including arrest) for the mere act of being drunk in public, and prohibit local jurisdictions from enacting criminal public intoxication laws on their own.
* Montana state law states that public intoxication is not a crime. However, the law allows law enforcement to take an intoxicated person home, or to detain them, if they are a danger to themselves or others. The law also states that no record can be made that indicates the person was arrested or detained for being intoxicated.[4]
* Nevada has no state public intoxication law. Nevada state law both protects people from suffering any criminal penalty (including arrest) for the mere act of being drunk in public, and prohibits local jurisdictions from enacting criminal public intoxication laws on their own.
Thanks for the info as I was not even aware some state's laws were as absurd as some of these. However, I did say acting normal which leads me to believe that you should be safe if you are acting normal in any state but Indiana. I don't like the idea of giving the police that much authority.
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