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tokinGLX · 05-06-2008, 04:54 PM

it doesnt matter if the wire is outside of the heating chamber, the heater itself IS NOT GLASS!!!!!!!!
creamic IS glass, so any vaporizers out there that have airflow touching the ceramic would be able to claim the same thing as you did("don't pass thru anything than GLASS!")

do i really need to list them all¿

i really dont see why you are arguing with the fact that ceramic > nichrome
why would you rather have a unit that is not a 100% ceramic heating element¿

nebulator · 05-06-2008, 06:48 PM

yes now i know.....you never saw a vapolution clooser.....and obviously you never try it!

we are saying two different things....try it then you can understand what i'm saying!
this unit is totally different from others vapes....maybe if you check their site can help you!
Usually Ceramic heaters are inside the heater to warm up the airflow!!!!! this one heat up the glass with wire(outside) and you put the bowl INSIDE the hot glass where there is nothing than glass!hope you can understand now.
Sorry but i'm not a english speaker and it is so hard to explain what i mean so i guess that someone(5drive) that own a vapolution can help me!

I love my Vapo!

tokinGLX · 05-06-2008, 07:57 PM

nope, never did try it. when i was at my friends house(a friend who owns a vapolution) i had brought my ssv along and after the first bowl through it, he said he would feel embarrassed to fire up his, even for comparison.

i fully understand what you are saying. you are saying that the heating element is not glass at all, it is a wire. what i am informing you is that there are other vaporizers that use glass AS the heating element, thus not needing to keep it away from the airflow. hope you can understand now.

beezleb878 · 05-06-2008, 08:15 PM

Questions about the vapulation.

Does heating the glass make it harder to control the temperature or is it as easy as to control by how you inhale as in most other direct draw vapes.

Thanks.

Buzzby · 05-07-2008, 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by beezleb878

Does heating the glass make it harder to control the temperature or is it as easy as to control by how you inhale as in most other direct draw vapes.

All convection vaporizers I've seen work the same way. Electricity is converted to heat that is applied to a glass heat sink. Air is drawn through the heat sink, heating it. The thermostatically controlled heater tries to keep the glass at the right temperature, replacing the heat drawn off by the air.

shibshib · 05-07-2008, 01:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fellah

I've heard that Vapolutions are made by Vapir and break down.

I wonder if the volcano smells like cables/mechanically from the heat source when it warms up.

I don't care about the cost now, I just want to buy a great vaporizer that doesn't stink in a bad way and will last a really long time.

my cano heats up clean

nebulator · 05-07-2008, 07:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tokinGLX

nope, never did try it. when i was at my friends house(a friend who owns a vapolution) i had brought my ssv along and after the first bowl through it, he said he would feel embarrassed to fire up his, even for comparison.

i fully understand what you are saying. you are saying that the heating element is not glass at all, it is a wire. what i am informing you is that there are other vaporizers that use glass AS the heating element, thus not needing to keep it away from the airflow. hope you can understand now.

fully?ok man...you lost a great occasion to understand how the vapolution works....your friend should show you at least the way it works...anyway take it easy and don't talk about something you never try or saw!
Everybody here can't say nothing about your SSV reports...that's your vape isn't?...about Vapo someone else should explain!
this my opinion

beezleb878 · 05-07-2008, 03:19 PM

Nebulator, In the real world people have to make real decisions everyday on subjects for which they have no direct experience with.

Their are many instances where people have experiences but lack the technical understanding and whatnot to effectively "learn" or take away from that experience any real value.

Experience is only a form of information and in reality you are both right. Many people including myself came to vaping without ever experiencing it before but due to proper research into many vapes, vaping styles and other applicable aspects a reasonable person can make an educated selection.

If experience was the only sure way to learn about something or to understand something than we would be lucky to be out of the stone age. Also at the end of the day, no matter how much we may talk about what vape we have and what not, their is no way to verify our information without following it up through other means. Who are people going to believe, people who have a long track record of success with nothing but helping a community or someone who is showing argumentative tendencies towards extolling a half truth about how that persons opinion is invalid because he has no direct experience.

Happy Vaping.

nebulator · 05-07-2008, 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beezleb878

Nebulator, In the real world people have to make real decisions everyday on subjects for which they have no direct experience with.

Their are many instances where people have experiences but lack the technical understanding and whatnot to effectively "learn" or take away from that experience any real value.

Experience is only a form of information and in reality you are both right. Many people including myself came to vaping without ever experiencing it before but due to proper research into many vapes, vaping styles and other applicable aspects a reasonable person can make an educated selection.

If experience was the only sure way to learn about something or to understand something than we would be lucky to be out of the stone age. Also at the end of the day, no matter how much we may talk about what vape we have and what not, their is no way to verify our information without following it up through other means. Who are people going to believe, people who have a long track record of success with nothing but helping a community or someone who is showing argumentative tendencies towards extolling a half truth about how that persons opinion is invalid because he has no direct experience.

Happy Vaping.

beautiful words....but no link to what i'm saying...this is just a translation problem!
i know tglx is right when he talk about others vapes but i'm sure he doesn't know how the Vapolution works...i cannot imagine a ceramic heater for the Vapo just because it has a different heater...if i know all the technical words to explain....everything could be clear!
I'm a no english european man and i'm trying to explain to tokinglx that Vapolution heater path is different to ssv, vapebox or what ever!just this...no experience matter!

very hard job!

05-06-2008, 04:54 PM	#31
tokinGLX the duke of herb Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 358 Grams: 2,871.85 Groans: 1 Groaned at 2 Times in 2 Posts Thanks: 5 Thanked 89 Times in 59 Posts Stock Portfolio Total Value: 0.000 Gain/Loss: -1.000%	it doesnt matter if the wire is outside of the heating chamber, the heater itself IS NOT GLASS!!!!!!!! creamic IS glass, so any vaporizers out there that have airflow touching the ceramic would be able to claim the same thing as you did("don't pass thru anything than GLASS!") do i really need to list them all¿ i really dont see why you are arguing with the fact that ceramic > nichrome why would you rather have a unit that is not a 100% ceramic heating element¿ __________________ united we toke, divided we choke.

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05-06-2008, 06:48 PM	#32
nebulator New Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 38 Grams: 615.05 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts Thanks: 7 Thanked 9 Times in 8 Posts Stock Portfolio Total Value: 0.000 Gain/Loss: 0.000%	yes now i know.....you never saw a vapolution clooser.....and obviously you never try it! we are saying two different things....try it then you can understand what i'm saying! this unit is totally different from others vapes....maybe if you check their site can help you! Usually Ceramic heaters are inside the heater to warm up the airflow!!!!! this one heat up the glass with wire(outside) and you put the bowl INSIDE the hot glass where there is nothing than glass!hope you can understand now. Sorry but i'm not a english speaker and it is so hard to explain what i mean so i guess that someone(5drive) that own a vapolution can help me! I love my Vapo!

05-06-2008, 07:57 PM	#33
tokinGLX the duke of herb Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 358 Grams: 2,871.85 Groans: 1 Groaned at 2 Times in 2 Posts Thanks: 5 Thanked 89 Times in 59 Posts Stock Portfolio Total Value: 0.000 Gain/Loss: -1.000%	nope, never did try it. when i was at my friends house(a friend who owns a vapolution) i had brought my ssv along and after the first bowl through it, he said he would feel embarrassed to fire up his, even for comparison. i fully understand what you are saying. you are saying that the heating element is not glass at all, it is a wire. what i am informing you is that there are other vaporizers that use glass AS the heating element, thus not needing to keep it away from the airflow. hope you can understand now.

05-06-2008, 08:15 PM	#34
beezleb878 Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 307 Grams: 2,776.65 Groans: 1 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts Thanks: 31 Thanked 21 Times in 18 Posts Stock Portfolio Total Value: 0.000 Gain/Loss: 0.000%	Questions about the vapulation. Does heating the glass make it harder to control the temperature or is it as easy as to control by how you inhale as in most other direct draw vapes. Thanks.

05-07-2008, 03:19 PM	#38
beezleb878 Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 307 Grams: 2,776.65 Groans: 1 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts Thanks: 31 Thanked 21 Times in 18 Posts Stock Portfolio Total Value: 0.000 Gain/Loss: 0.000%	Nebulator, In the real world people have to make real decisions everyday on subjects for which they have no direct experience with. Their are many instances where people have experiences but lack the technical understanding and whatnot to effectively "learn" or take away from that experience any real value. Experience is only a form of information and in reality you are both right. Many people including myself came to vaping without ever experiencing it before but due to proper research into many vapes, vaping styles and other applicable aspects a reasonable person can make an educated selection. If experience was the only sure way to learn about something or to understand something than we would be lucky to be out of the stone age. Also at the end of the day, no matter how much we may talk about what vape we have and what not, their is no way to verify our information without following it up through other means. Who are people going to believe, people who have a long track record of success with nothing but helping a community or someone who is showing argumentative tendencies towards extolling a half truth about how that persons opinion is invalid because he has no direct experience. Happy Vaping.

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