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5drive

That company uses a dimple in the glass for a screen. The Vapolution is like that, but their bowls are very narrow and the dimple method makes sense and works well overall. I can't figure out how/why CA Vapor Co. uses the dimple with a full size setup. Let us know how you like it and if you have any problems with the 'screenless bowl'. Vapor should eliminate the smoker's cough for you. It did for me.

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Professor

Can you tell us why you weren't impressed with the Da Buddha? I've owned many a Vaporizer from a Volcano, SSV, cheap globe top fishbowl aweful vapes and box vaporizors and imho, the Da Buddha is the best sub $200 vaporizor on the market hands down.

I'm just curious why you weren't impressed with it.

Trocisp

Longer warm up time, poor airflow and uneven heat distribution - on both (an/a) 'Da Buddha's' I've used.

The poor airflow and uneven heat distribution had nothing to do with being poorly packed (which was my first thought), but was a consistent problem that arose with both Buddha's I tried. It wasn't a deal-breaker, but if I was given the option to spend 160 on a Buddha or 120 on a VaporWarez, or even 160 on a VaporWarez, I'd choose the VaporWarez every time. In fact, I was given that option - and I chose the VaporWarez and haven't regretted my choice yet.

Have you tried the Vaporwarez 3G? Because in my opinion the VaporWarez3G is best sub $200 vaporizer.

Quite honestly, I don't see the point in bolding that statement... adding emphasis to a statement of opinion... but I did it anyway, because I'm cool.
Nothing 'deal breaker,' at all. If given one for free and I didn't own a VaporWarez, I would certainly use it.

However, here are a few things that I would list as by far VaporWarez Superior;

• 5 Year warranty on the Vaporwarez, 3 on Da Buddha
• Better Reliability on the Vaporwarez (I know about 10 people with the Vaporwarez, including those on the forum and none have had a single malfunction, where of the 5 people I know with Buddha's have had 1 malfunction). Admittedly not a large-number test group, but still...
• Better Airflow
• Better Heat distrobution
• Lower cost (120USD for the VaporWarez, 160USD for (an/a) '[i]Da Buddha[i]'

That's a short list, there are other, smaller things, however I don't feel like doing a point-by-point review of each at the moment.

beezleb878

Sorry you have had the issues with your Buddha that you claim, I have seen no other report that matches your issues.

Due to this I suggest contacting 7th floor as if you do own one it may not be operating correctly.

Also you warranty does not accurately reflect the warranty on the DB, after the 3 year warranty is up the offer replacements at a low price plus free shipping.

Well take 7th Floor's words for it:
Da Buddha comes with a 3 year warranty. This warranty covers everything but the glass. If anything happens within the warranty period, you send it to us and we take care of the issue. If after the warranty period is over, you can get anything replaced for $25 or less and this includes the shipping charge to ship it back to you via UPS. We would love to offer a longer warranty but nothing can last a lifetime. Pretty much Da Buddha has been designed to last many worry free years!

Just trying to keep the warranty issue accurate.

I would say both vapes are high quality vapes and I recommend the DB but its the only one I have ever had direct experience and knowledge with. Take from that what you will, be sure to see through the fan boys and review many reviews and opinions with as much research you can do on the vapes you are interested in.

My main advice is to select a vape that matches your smoking style.

Trocisp

Not my buddha, if I gave that impression - I'm sorry. I own a VaporWarez 3G. My experience with Da Buddha is purely from using friends.

Oh, and I like the "that you claim," part...

My friend did have a Buddha, that malfunctioned, I thought I told the story about how he sent it back... but after re-reading my post, apparently I didn't.

He sent it back, they took it apart and said there was something wrong with it, and they would ship him a new one under warranty. They did, and he got his new one. The new one preformed perfectly well (rather, it preformed the exact same as my other friends). Both of them preformed, in my opinion, at a 'lesser level' (so to speak) than my VaporWarez.

I've had experience with VaporWarez, as well. There was a product line they shipped out called the 'Hand free whip kit, unscrewable.' as it turns out, the metal-on-glass connection (the part that unscrewed) would slip out. Not a deal-breaking issue, I called VaporWarez (Vicki got me the number - I was too dumb to find it... ) and they told me to send it to them and they would ship me the new 2 piece model for free. Keep in mind, this wasn't under warranty, they didn't ask me the date of purchase, and there was no safety issue. This was purely to keep me, the customer, happy.

(The price on the handset I had was 34.85, and they replaced it with an Equal price, newer model. I payed for shipping to them, about 2.45)

I like to be happy.
And, after the 5 year warranty is up on the VaporWarez they do the same... What's your point?

I cannot speak to the $25 dollar or less shipping and parts thing that's posted on their website, however I can speak (from experience) that when something breaks on a VaporWarez they replace it, no problem. Simply see my story above... The guy was nice and even thew in a 2.5 feet of tubing for me, because when I was on the phone I said, 'everything is fantastic, I just wish the hose was longer.' My experience is that (Lazlow, I think was his name) the people at VaporWarez really do want to keep happy campers.

Seems like you're just trying to justify why a 3 year warranty is just as good as a 5 year warranty.

To me, it still seems like it's 2 years lighter.

If Da Buddha is the only vape you've had any experience with, how can you say they are both high quality?

For all you know, the VaporWarez is miles and miles superior to yours, you've never even tried any others. That's like saying "I think Venus and Earth are both livable planets, but I only have 2nd hand accounts of Earth, but Venus is pretty good."

What you're saying, is that you're a fanboy (which, ironically, is something you're encouraging people to see through) who hasn't tried anything but the Da Buddha, and are trying to give a review about something you've never used.

The only 'style' difference between da buddha and VaporWarez is aesthetic.

My main advice to the OP (even though he's stated that he's chosen a vape already) is to get fully informed reviews from people who have a lot of experience, there are quite a few of them around the forum. I have limited experience, however it's more than many (most, I'd venture, because not many people use vapes).


I want to make it clear, I'm not saying that Da Buddha is a bad vaporizer. I'm just saying that it wasn't impressive, especially since it's 40 dollars more, 2 years less warranty and, quite frankly, less pleasurable than the VaporWarez to use.

Would I use a Da Buddha again? Of course. If I had a Da Buddha and a VaporWarez sitting next to each other, and I had to choose to which I would prefer? I'd choose at the VaporWarez 10 out of 10 times, no questions asked.

 

beezleb878

Yea, my point is the question is not about you or a vape peeing contest.

The smoking style was directed at the op, cue in the song "you probably think this song is about you" as it fits hehe.

all joking around aside, when a comparison of the warranties is made, than all information regarding it should be stated as it can be misunderstood.

The fact is they are both high quality vapes on the market today and wholly best in their class in my opinion. Regardless what vaporizer a person selects it is a good thing if they use it regularly because of the health benefits compared to smoking. So I extoll the virtues of using a vape that fits each individuals smoking style such as those who may prefer bags or at least the option of bags compared to a direct draw vape.

You sort of come off as if you are speaking from fact rather than opinion so I was countering, no disrespect or ruffled feather intended. I appreciate your view points as well as I am sure the op does.

Happy Vaping to you!

Trocisp

No where did I say it was about me. And I assure you that this is not a peeing contest. If it were, I would likely fail. I just peed five minutes ago.

I was simply pointing out that the two vaporizers function in the same way.

Perhaps we should queue the song You're So Vain?

I agree. However, you discussed something that wasn't warranty. You brought up a quote from the site proclaiming the virtues of $25 dollar (out of warranty) repairs, I shared my story (as well as a friends da buddha story - do you even bother reading my posts before you respond?).

What experience do you have with other vapes?

Oh wait...
(Emphases added)
Agreed.

Yes... you encourage people to buy things that fit their lifestyle?! Amazing.

Of course - however in the $200 price range, there's not a whole lot of wiggle room. It's a whip vape - especially if you want quality.

Countering? With what?

Opinions you couldn't have formed because you've had no experience?

If the only vape you've ever had any experience with is da buddha, how do you know that it doesn't have poor air flow. That's like driving a 1994 Impala and saying "This car is fucking awesome, no car handles better!"

Does your 1994 impala have the best best handling ever, beez?

beezleb878

What are you? One of those drama people who constantly pull apart peoples posts and try to look into them? I got better things to do. I come here to speak on vaporizers as I see them as very healthy for people and if more people used them the better it is. I care not who buys what, likes what or whatnot but I commented on your post because thats how I feel and I stated my reasons for it. Other than that whats the point of a back and forth sissy back & forth.

I said my piece and I stand by it, no need to be ignorant, just agree to disagree or whatnot. You can have whatever last word you want as I have nothing more to relate to the topic for which is the reason I came in here.

AnotherToker

For the record the pinch method used on the Vapor Co bowl for a 'screen' sucks. I had to cut screens down to fit in the little hole. its much better now

5drive

Posted by tonkinGLX
You round up a list of the quality vapes of the type that suits you and then personal preference rules. If you didn't want to use bags the Volcano wouldn't be best at the top end. If you didn't want to use a whip, or wanted 12v use without a power converter, neither one of these two would be best under $200.

I haven't used the DB, but I do own the surfer, and I have a very good picture of the similarities and differences from tokin and some others who have used both units. I won't comment on "longer warm up time", except to say that's picky to the extreme. If you think the DB has poor airflow and uneven heat distribution, then you'd hate the SSV. And you'd probably find the Vapolution totally unacceptable. But criticizing the Vapo for poor airflow wouldn't be fair. It's not designed to compete with standard whip designs in airflow. A 2 seater sports car can't compete with big sedans in ride quality and shouldn't be compared in that respect. But the Vapolution could still qualify as best vape under $200 for a particular person.

Since you found that two different DB units performed the same it's obviously the design you don't like. The surfer, due to the smaller outlet opening on the heater cover (compared to the DB) has slightly more restricted airflow and a more narrow focus for the air entering the bowl, resulting in even worse heat distribution than the DB. Having said that, the overall airflow of the SSV, as far as drawing on the whip, is as good as or better than any 'standard' whip design that I've used. It's also very forgiving about how you hit it. This design also results in rich vapor hits with the high vapor/air ratio that I like. I don't mind having to move the wand angle around during a hit or stirring between hits in order to compensate for the uneven heat distribution. Excellent heat distribution would result in too much air for my taste. It's a design compromise and all vapes have them to some degree, for at least some people. There is no perfect vape for everyone. I've used a couple of vapes (not the typical whip design but still in the whip catagory) that have great airflow, better than the Vaporcannon or any other 'standard whip design'. Airflow was my least favorite aspect and 'For Sale' signs ended up on both. I didn't like the hits on either but I'm not going to label either as a 'poor hitter', because some people love the way they hit. Comes down to personal preference.