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i thought i was the only one to like the movie, but if what this movie is saying is true, what can we do about it

 

Trocisp

Never Fear, Conspiracy Buster is here!

You'll have to refresh me, it's been a while since I watched the the thing.

Popularity? Funsies? What does someone have to gain by designing a string of malicious code that can disrupt the function of thousands of computers? Some people are just dicks, or want to be popular.

They have a single engineer who says they wouldn't collapse like that, but there are thousands who say they would've collapsed just that way.

The simple answer is the chemicals that lined the infrastructure of the building (that protected from fire) were blasted away in the impact, and then the beams of steal themselves were heated to a point where they could no longer support so much weight on top of them. This weight then came crashing down (vertically, because that's how gravity works, unless they have an expert debating that...).

Dropping bombs on civilians is almost never an action intentionally undertaken in war. It goes against American policies in Iraq and in general. Of course there are civilian casualties, but they don't go out intentionally shooting civilians (and any who do are guilty of war crimes). Dropping bombs in a city to surgically destroy an enemy encampment is not the same as killing four thousand of your own people.

I disagree. We've had 40 some presidents here in the United States, of those who are "guilty," the number is amazingly small. I would assume that other countries have similar ratio's.

Yes, yes it is.

Edit: I couldn't complete my post, as my keyboard went out half way through it, so I'll complete it now... Sorry guys.

Philosophy

No i watched another movie about the whole 9/11 thing, and there was more then one engineer who said the buildings shouldnt have fallin, but they even designed the buildings just in chase something like that happened, but in that other movie i wacthed they said something about Bush's brohter had something tho do with it and he supposed to be the like "security director", and they said that he closed all the security systems down to do some cleaning, and the day of 9/11 he took off....NOW tell me thats not crazy.....this world itself just is

vern

Do you think the democrats or the repliblicans where the first to ask if we should blow up our own buildings?

Why is it so hard to believe that terrorists can do things like that?

What would Bush's brother have to do with this? Security systems shut down for cleaning? All that just sounds like a giant load of BS.

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Ok wat about people saying that they had heard explosins, and people saying that they know people who have died from some of the explosins, matter of fact you can look it up on google "World Trade Center Explosins", and then since you still think terrorist did it, ho did building 7 fall...NO body knows...engineers said the way building 7 fell was the way perfect demalations look...and if you still want more edvidince look up demalation builds, on youtube or building seven im pretty sure you'll find it

 

Jake

What is the general theory that the movie puts forward? From what I've gathered from this thread it puts the Christian religion at the center of a global, totalitarian government scheme.

Most posts are concerning the 9/11 conspiracy theories, and if the movie spends enough time on that, I won't watch it. The 9/11 conspiracies have been debunked and debunked....The theoriest have published a "Debunking of Popular Mechanics" but even that book has been proven to be the last ditch, desperation hail mary, and has been debunked.

I know it's fun to conspiracy theorize. I've dabbled in it. I (still) think that Lee Harvey Oswald didn't act alone. At one point, I believed the 9/11 bullshit too. But it's just bullshit. 3,000 people died. It was very Earth-shattering and hard to grasp. Conspiracy theories try to make sense of it all.

It just doesn't stand up.

EDIT:
Also, to the people who are supporting of the theories in the movie, watch yourself. Don't you see a hint of egotism emerging in yourself when you believe in the conspiracies?
"Humanity is so stupid and narrow minded."
"If only the rest of the world could have the veil lifted and see what is really going on"
"The masses are easily led and brainwashed"

Sure makes you feel like a smarter, better person than most on the planet, does it not?

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wath the movie Zeitgeist - The Movie, 2007

renots

Tell that to the parents of children that got there limbs ripped apart from an explosion. It's all the same to me (terrorist or the army) because that's what it comes down to, after you stop thinking of all the political or religious BS that's what really matters, war sucks. "Surgically" trust me you can't do anything that remotely is like surgery with a bomb, unless of course your talking about seeing peoples guts.

Trocisp

Terrorists and the Army are distinctly different, if only in their intentions (although there is a lot more difference than just that). An armies intention is to win a war, a terrorists intention is to inspire terror (as defined by the term terrorist).

renots

They both use violence to attain their goals. The armies of the world are just more organized and have uniforms and flags, as if that makes it okay to kill people (dressing nice). What do you think the army wants to inspire to their enemies, niceness? Anyways you're probably right about the official definition of the two words I just said that to me it's all the same BS.